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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwizm View Post
    I'm leaning towards Crusaders this season. Haven't really given them a shot before but I think I'll get them to GR80 first then dabble with some DMO/Arcane Orb/Area Damage Wizards. With Crusaders on the PTR I was able to finish a 78 with an average of 870 Para, 70-71 gems, zero +Strength from the new Cube recipe and about 900k to 1.2m sheet damage....far from optimal gear.

    The only thing really stopping the build is the LAG. The LoN based Heaven's Fury build I was running is super-duper laggy. At GR 73+ any group of mobs would bring the action to a halt. After getting stuck at GR74 trying to kill everything, I decided I would run run from elite pack to elite pack for all of my progression which worked all the way up to 78 last night. I'll also give the bombardment build a run after looking at that spreadsheet!
    Not trying ANYTHING that causes lag. Been there, done that. Had more than enough with HT WDs on last season and not trying that shit ever again. Crusaders look good, but won't try them for seasons. Honestly, I just wanna get my stash space. Once I get Conqueror, I'm back to non season. There isn't really other incentive to play seasons. I'll give Crusaders a try then. For S5, DHs will get to Conqueror the fastest IMO. Ranged classes are amazingly easy to multibox compared to melee.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cmoidudu View Post
    Yes I studied this already, and while some of the templates are a very good pointer, others are simply impossible to achieve... like the LoN/poney/thorns setup, which will require all ancient stuff with natural perfect stats AND THEN you have to reforge for thorns. Since I'd need 3 ou 4 sets of those, I'm not doing this.

    So at the moment I'll stick to a team with 3xDH (Marauder set) and 1xWD (support), farm with it for new items because it will be very easy, then 3 days after season 5 starts, some dude will already be Paragon 1000+ and I'll see what works and what doesn't.

    And I'm still afraid that LoN will be nerfed at the last minute, like +50% damage per ancient piece instead of +100%...
    Yeah, the LoN stuff is unreal. Maybe something to look up for nonseason and eventually get it. I'm planning on maybe going 4x M6 or 3x M6 + 1 UE. Since I'll only go for the stash space, I see no point on trying a mixed party for S5.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cmoidudu View Post
    Right now the 2 templates (from that spreadsheet) that have my attention are :

    http://ptr.d3planner.com/222556809
    http://ptr.d3planner.com/882367074

    Of course it needs to be re-worked with "human" stats, i.e. not 2k Paragon, not +450 stat on each piece, not perfect rolls, etc. But still the farming time to gather the pieces seems reasonable.

    And for us multiboxers, Krem's bracers are mandatory for any melee setup, either on equip or on cube.

    Also it seems that nobody thought of cubing "The Cloak of the Garwulf" in the cube for DH/Marauder templates. It really fits well with "Zoey's secret" belt, plus simulation shows that it adds non-negligeable dps.
    I changed the DMO template for something more realistic with Paragon 800, rank 60 gems and just weapon/source Ancient. 3x DMO wizards + support Barb. Unless something is broken on d3planner, this is prolly THE best option in terms of pure DPS:

    http://ptr.d3planner.com/453951862

    If the numbers are correct, they will nerf the shit out of that sword very soon. No other class comes remotely close to Wizards in pure DPS. U can prolly throw a Crusader or a WD for more support and still do great. Did the same exercise with other classes and the numbers are WAY WAY below DMO ET wizard. And the items are not that hard to get. So far this is my best option for pushing non season GR.
    Last edited by Devile : 01-12-2016 at 10:48 AM

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