New pc to 10 box but still not good enough?? :O

[tanknspanker]

hello!
I have returned with the same problem.
When is this happening: Pretty much everytime I defend in alterac valley on the first boss.
Frames drop to 6-3 FPS ..
I have been searching on the isboxer page of what I might do to prevent this.
Sadly it still keeps going.

I have used the OHM-program to monitor things.
I really cannot believe that my CPU is the bottleneck of my problem however it seems to be the problem.

I pasted every thing right here: http://justpaste.it/ongl and I was hoping if someone might confirm this, and what I might do to improve my gameplay.

Thx in advance!
tanknspanker

[MiRai]

Can you use a different paste site? Like pastebin.com? Or something else that is going to retain the carriage returns upon pasting? It's quite difficult to read anything when it's one giant jumble of letters, numbers, and symbols.

[mbox_bob]

It does seem to indicate your CPU is really busy, but then, if you are 10 boxing and streaming it likely would be.
It probably doesn't help that 4 of the cores are showing running a current value of 1200MHz! Try setting your power profile so the minimum CPU is 100% as outlined http://www.isboxer.com/wiki/HOWTO:Di...ing_in_Windows

On another note. Have you monitored the running processes to see what they are doing?
You can use something like perfmon to monitor all the processes on your PC for user/privileged/total CPU time. Then see if there are any processes chewing up CPU that you can shutdown, make sure that none of the remaining processes are exceeding 10-15% of total time in the privileged time (actually this on is subjective on the application itself, but it is more of a general rule) because this would mean it is busy managing resources rather than doing the processing to make your game faster.

You might also consider using a capture card (some fancy setups even use a separate streaming PC) if you don't have one, as this will offload a bunch of tasks that are used for capturing/converting/compressing your video stream from your CPU.

[tanknspanker]

Can you use a different paste site? Like pastebin.com? Or something else that is going to retain the carriage returns upon pasting? It's quite difficult to read anything when it's one giant jumble of letters, numbers, and symbols.

here you go
http://pastebin.com/1FPpLz5e

The fight was not so intense here but still the FPS dropped and lost the fight cause of this.. well maybe not 'cause of this but still I could've wiped more ally *ss*s .

Greetingz!

[MiRai]

here you go
http://pastebin.com/1FPpLz5e

The fight was not so intense here but still the FPS dropped and lost the fight cause of this.. well maybe not 'cause of this but still I could've wiped more ally *ss*s .

Greetingz!

Much better, thanks, but as bob stated, your CPU is being completely maxed out. I don't know why some of the cores show such low values, but it could be an error in reporting. /shrug Perhaps it is the power profile, but I find it odd that it wouldn't wake the cores up when so heavily tasked.

[tanknspanker]

I do not stream anymore as this affects my cpu usage.
I will try to modify some stuff latet in the evening
Thx for the reply's already!

It does seem to indicate your CPU is really busy, but then, if you are 10 boxing and streaming it likely would be.
It probably doesn't help that 4 of the cores are showing running a current value of 1200MHz! Try setting your power profile so the minimum CPU is 100%

This was already the case in the power profile. :-/
However when watching the Hardware monitor, the 4 cores you mention that are on 1200MHz are actually scaling from 1200 to 4000 MHz ..

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On another note. Have you monitored the running processes to see what they are doing?
You can use something like perfmon to monitor all the processes on your PC for user/privileged/total CPU time. Then see if there are any processes chewing up CPU that you can shutdown, make sure that none of the remaining processes are exceeding 10-15% of total time in the privileged time (actually this on is subjective on the application itself, but it is more of a general rule) because this would mean it is busy managing resources rather than doing the processing to make your game faster.

Do I have to do this while I'm playing WoW or when windows rebooted?

edit: I have found an overview of the running processes on idle when nothing is opened.
CPU usage is at 0%.

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This might sound foolish of me to ask this, but would this have anything to do with drivers or windows 10 ?

I installed all drivers trough windows update untill everything was installed.

[MiRai]

We've pretty much already covered this earlier in the thread... If you're bottlenecking you hardware then you can:

• Lower your resolution
• Lower your fore/background FPS
• Lower your video settings
• Adjust your CPU Strategy within ISBoxer

These are all the main factors which affect performance. You can try to reset/redo any of these as they may have been automatically adjusted without your knowledge (like in-game video settings), but other than that, you can also shut down some game clients to see if the performance improves. If it does, then it's clear that whatever settings, resolution, framerate, CPU strategy you're using with 10 clients, is overloading your machine in its current configuration.

[zenga]

Just adding: if you use windows 10 and chrome and have a twitch stream open (even your own), it kills your fps completely. I have really high-end hardware and my cpu load is 70-80% with just chrome+twitch open and 1 wow client (I can have like 20 edge streams open w/o any impact for the record). Reason why I mention this is that while streaming some people have their own broadcast playing in the twitch dashboard. If that is the case you might want to check that first.

[tanknspanker]

We've pretty much already covered this earlier in the thread... If you're bottlenecking you hardware then you can:

• Lower your resolution
• Lower your fore/background FPS
• Lower your video settings
• Adjust your CPU Strategy within ISBoxer

These are all the main factors which affect performance. You can try to reset/redo any of these as they may have been automatically adjusted without your knowledge (like in-game video settings), but other than that, you can also shut down some game clients to see if the performance improves. If it does, then it's clear that whatever settings, resolution, framerate, CPU strategy you're using with 10 clients, is overloading your machine in its current configuration.

In game I cannot change the resolution. there is only 1 option which is enabled.
FPS has been lowered to 40/15 on all toons
video settings are at the lowest you can get
I'll play around with the CPU Strategy's ..

however if this might not work, what would you recommend for CPU that I should purchase?

I really appreciate all the input everyone has been giving!

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Just adding: if you use windows 10 and chrome and have a twitch stream open (even your own), it kills your fps completely. I have really high-end hardware and my cpu load is 70-80% with just chrome+twitch open and 1 wow client (I can have like 20 edge streams open w/o any impact for the record). Reason why I mention this is that while streaming some people have their own broadcast playing in the twitch dashboard. If that is the case you might want to check that first.

Yeah, Chrome is not hardware-friendly when watching any kind of video or even parked on a static web page with a lot of divs. It's high-school-attention-whore levels of resource consumption. "Oh, you have 32GB of RAM? Cool! Here, let me grab about 4GB for myself, you know, Just In Case(tm)." For example, my firefox has 25 tabs open here at work and has been up since yesterday morning's driver update reboot; it's sitting at ~870MB allocated to the process. I just launched Chrome (SRWare Iron actually) and copied all 25 of my tabs over to it (20 of those are just static Redmine bug web pages) ; it's already at ~2.3GB and climbing. And we won't even talk about how Chrome spikes our GPU/CPU temps here at work on PCs (Win10 and Win7) and even worse on the Macbook Pro units. :/