My introduction

[Teq]

Sorry Fleecy, I dont mean to doubt you or bash the tools that you are using in any way. I doubt the GM and the superviser you spoke to, not you.

While having ingame GM approval of the tools you are using is nice, it is not something you can refer to should issues arise for you in the future with another GM (which will happen as you are bound to be reported/investigated over and over ).
A blue conformation on a blizzard forum is more suited for this.

You're 100% correct, it sends a key press, waits, send more key presses. And this was discussed with the GM - and his supervisor. They clearly said it was not breaching the policy.

While your GM might approve of this, Others have not been so lucky and have had their accounts suspended oer this. Seeing how delicate the automation/botting issue is for multiboxers, i would realy not risk your accounts with anything less then a blue forum post... and even then you are walking on thin ice.

[Fleecy]

I see my next job is to get a blue post on the forums

[edit] Forum post - check. Blizzard's reply - waiting.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...974695&sid=1#0

[Skuggomann]

lol gool GM, but im not sure that the Gm got it that you say one thing and the program does 3.

[Mirone]

I have to say i think you are in danger of getting banned for what you are doing fleecy, even unitentionally. You are automating the process and if you get a gm in a bad mood then that's you in trouble. As for your conversation with the gm - you didn't make it clear to them exactly what you are doing with your salvo 1 command. it looks like you are just sending 3 commands to 3 seperate chars which is allowed rather than commands to 1 char with time delays.

I could be wrong but I think it's unclear so I'd advise erring on the side of caution until this is cleared up.

[Fleecy]

Ok, its been confirmed by "blue" on the forums.

The automation part of Dragon is not allowed. But Dragon itself should be fine. As long as you are not performing any more than the standard WoW macro system is capable of.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=2

[Wilbur]

Cheers for clearing this up Fleecy :-)

Previous experience with GMs led me to believe that he simply hadn't understood properly what you meant.

Generally speaking its agreed upon that as long as 1 key-press/command only results in a single keypress being sent to WoW, its acceptable.

[Hotnutz]

And to clarify I say the command "SALVO ONE", Dragon sends a number of different timed key presses. Eg... Fireball [Ctrl+Shift+Q], wait 2 seconds, Pyro Blast[Ctrl+Shift+W], wait 7 seconds, Scorch[Ctrl+Shift+E]. For peace of mind I want to fully clarify this with Blizzard as I may not have been 100% clear with my explination. But in reading Blizzard's responce on the link provided by Khazrael I think this probably falls under the category of automation. I have previously only focused on the BOT issue I was not even considering "automation". This may be an issue, if Blizzard's reply is not favourable I'll return to issuing the commands manually. I will miss "BUFF GROUP" (Fort, Int, Shadow Protection, Kings for everyone, sit and drink).

The delay in key presses is automation period. Your conversation with the GM does not specify the time delay. This is what people were doing with the G15 to get banned.

[Vyndree]

There is much truthiness in this thread.

Delays and timers are absolutely NOT acceptable as per previous discussions with Blizzard. It would be considered a very primitive form of automation, but automation none the less. Any macro that can be duplicated in-game (via the in-game /macro system) would be acceptable.

[s]I also believe you might have been the one to start this official forum thread[/s] (edit: I need to read more carefully) which I've added the blue posts to the GM Conversations Wiki Page for clarity. It's an awesome blue explanation for those curious.

In any case, I'm glad you were able to clarify this before getting too attached to your complex macros. I wouldn't want you to get in trouble for a misunderstanding on the part of the in-game GM. I always go straight for the customer service forum for answers as they are always very careful about what they say and careful about understanding the situation since the forums get a large amount of views from the entire playerbase.

[Skuggomann]

Downloading the drogram as we speak XD gona se what this baby can do :P