Huge delay on /assist to followers

[d0z3rr]

Just started back up again after a looong time. I forgot just how much of a PITA it is when you have to start completely from scratch (re-setup isboxer, re-setup addons, re-setup binds, etc.). I've been subbed for two weeks and only just started questing my RAF team last night. I would take an hour or so a few days a week to slowly set everything up.

Anyways, to my main question. I am finding that I need to mash the crap out of my assist key for my followers to pick it up. They rarely ever assist the first keypress. I never remember it being this slow.

I'll explain exactly how I have my assist set up just in case I fudged something:
-I hit X on my main, that is repeated to all the followers via a simple repeater profile and it's broadcasted to them.
-X is bound to a macro on my followers that is "/assist party1" on the first line and "/assist raid1" on the following line.

I am getting a solid 60fps+ on all the followers and around 110fps on my main, so it's not a hardware performance issue.

Just wondering if anyone else has this issue?

[MultiBear]

I don't know whether this would solve it, though I've never ran into the issue you describe. Is there any reason you've set this up through a repeater profile rather than simply creating a mapped key for your manual assist?

Edit: Since you were talking about a "huge" delay, I figured you weren't talking about the normal assist delay. Glad that's all it was though.

[CDNProdigy]

Sorry but I may be missing something here... is your macro on the action bar in World of Warcraft or in Isboxer? Are you using the pro config system if it's in Isboxer?

Using the pro system setup I have never gotten this problem except when I forgot to instruct my toons to assist in the first place!

Edit: I forgot to mention that you can combine both lines of your macro into one:

/assist [@party1,exists]party1; [@raid1,exists]raid1

or if you think that your really clever you could use something like this on your followers:

/cast [harm,nodead][@party1target,harm,nodead] Smite

[Lax]

I made a diagram several years ago to explain to people why this delay exists and cannot be completely eliminated.

In a nutshell, if you target something and then try to have your followers immediately assist, they will pick up your old target. /assist is client-side, and your other clients will not have the information about your new target in order to correctly assist the new one, until the server has received the message that you targeted something new, and processes it in order to send out messages with your updated Target, and then your other clients receive and process the message. The amount of time this is, is basically directly related to your ping to the game server, probably about the same.

Here's the diagram.



MiRai also showed this in a video: http://youtu.be/gkH06UNWFY0?t=1m46s

Source for all of this info: http://isboxer.com/wiki/Assist_delay

[d0z3rr]

In a nutshell, if you target something and then try to have your followers immediately assist, they will pick up your old target. /assist is client-side, and your other clients will not have the information about your new target in order to correctly assist the new one, until the server has received the message that you targeted something new, and processes it in order to send out messages with your updated Target, and then your other clients receive and process the message. The amount of time this is, is basically directly related to your ping to the game server, probably about the same.

Thanks for the explanation, makes perfect sense, and it doesn't bug me as much anymore.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Thanks for the explanation, makes perfect sense, and it doesn't bug me as much anymore.

It's one of the reasons PVP folks usually tie their assist/IWT macros to their combat macros, so they don't have to pay attention to this stuff.

[d0z3rr]

It's one of the reasons PVP folks usually tie their assist/IWT macros to their combat macros, so they don't have to pay attention to this stuff.

I'm definitely going to have to experiment with setting that up.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I'm definitely going to have to experiment with setting that up.

Search up some of the "multi-step" macros; some great discussions on how that works and what people were doing to accomplish certain tasks. I think a fair bit of discussion about them was in the class macros sticky thread.

[d0z3rr]

Update/dualboxingblogs:

So I noticed the lag goes completely away when you're in an instance. Which is great, because that's my main method of leveling. The instance quests give huge EXP. When I hit the assist key it immediately grabs on the followers, but when in the open world it's much more laggy, but bearable.

Regarding cast sequences, you pretty much have no choice but to use the ISboxer stepping. I tried to fumble around with macros, but it definitely was gimping all my dps. It was pretty easy to figure out actually. I'm pretty sure I'll even use an "on release" eventually as my group levels higher, but for right now sending 123 is working fine with my macros.

Warlocks seem incredibly weak at low levels, my hunter and monk easily do 4 times as much damage. But I have a love for warlocks so he's not getting replaced. I'm running a holy trinity and will do something different next group, like 4 hunters and a priest or something.