Comparison of Octopus and Keyclone

[Tehtsuo]

He's done, you're not going to hear from him again. You've also pretty well alienated yourself from many people here. I recommend you cut your losses.

[mrmcgee21]

The only problem I've ever had with keyclone ( worth mentioning ) is the key modifier issue I highlighted above. Didn't realize this was going to turn into such a heated arguement, honestly I just wanted people to know that if they have the same problem octopus is a work around for the time being. I've never dealth with this "runaways" thing, I know exactly why it the key jams happen and how to prevent them, problem is when your probably passing over 50 keys a minute theres a good chance that just one of them could create a key jam if a mod keyed is lifted before the normal key.

That being said I would like to say I've used keyclone for about 3 months, leveled 3 alts from 1 to 70 and had really no issues with it. I've 5 boxxed every normal instance and about half of the heroics using keyclones and it wasn't really until heroics that this came up as an issue with me because I found I simply was required to mash keys about twice as fast, sometimes more frantically than others.

-Thext

[Ughmahedhurtz]

This thread is a case in point that poor communications and bad assumptions result in a lot of needless flak. To wit:

1) the OP might have started the thread in a more "hey, anyone else have these issues with keyclone?" manner and saved the "I'm now using octopus with no issues" for later if the end result was the same. Fixing bugs isn't easy or fast, especially if it's difficult to reproduce the failure in the developer's environment. This all probably started with a very terse bug report that was unproductive in reproducing the failure. Might be worth investing some time in a bug report template users could fill out to save time later (assuming this doesn't exist; :P).

2) Those of you saying the guy is bashing him because YOU don't have those issues are making some ASS-umptions. Namely, that he A) didn't report them previously, B) Didn't have his config setup properly, C) didn't attempt other communication methods first and D) can't be seeing real bugs because you've never seen them. You might have actually asked if he had things setup the way you're assuming before you go bashing HIM for not "doing it properly." This forum is pretty good about helping things along, even if the threads started off a bit rocky. You guys aren't helping the situation.

3) I can understand the developer's frustration with having stuff like this come off as a bash post but I doubt flaming the guy will help matters much. As a business, you have to expect that not everyone will be happy with your product. /shrug

To reiterate, as far as I know, keyclone is a solid product with a developer that provides excellent support for most users. It also is not infallible and requires some work to get set up correctly (nature of the beast when doing non-standard stuff like this) much like the other products that do similar things. Finally, don't fall for flamebait if you think that's what it is. Suggest it be taken to PMs and let it go at that. No need to start flamewars, especially when you do NOT have all the data required to come to a correct conclusion as to what exactly happened. People are human, after all.

[Khayos]

I have had run-a-ways with one wow window running and no Keyclone at all, this was Pre multi-boxing.
I have no problems with the software at all.
I got a new system and wanted a liscence transfered, I rang Keyclone personally, he suggested a cheaper way of contact from the off as he realised I was calling long distance and we sorted out transfering it in no more than 10 minutes, was very helpful, polite and even stopped after to ask about me and my multi boxing, asked if there was anything I'd like to see in the software and talked about up-coming ideas he had and bug fixes. I haven't ever in my life met someone so helpful and dedicated to something he does on the side, this isn't his main job remember.
He has made some software for us to help with multi-boxing at from where I am, it works great.
As I have always said, if you think you can do better or like something else more, then do it yourself or use the different software.
Rob couldn't be any nicer with concerns over his software and more helpful either. There are a ton of new members, older members and external people probably PM'ing him all the time, as well as coding, having a RL and doing other humany things, give the poor guy a break.

Keyclone, you do a great job for me, thankyou for your software and don't listen to any of this ear bashing.

Khayos

[geoffdavison]

I've actually had the spin/move thing happen before I started dual boxing.. its just more of a pain in the ass to fix when you have to control more characters...

ok now lets all gather round and have a group hug

totally hetero non homo hug btw.. not that there's anything wrong with that

[Vyndree]

Less hostility I <3 you all~

QFT.

Instead of "Comparison of Octopus and Keyclone" why not "Highlighting benefits of Octopus"?

Because Keyclone and Octopus cannot coexist nicely? As you said -- would you rather set up Octopus on your own and, since you have source code, be your own product support? Or would you like a code-free run-and-go fully supported product like Keyclone? The OP has the right to his opinion as does those who are happily using Keyclone. Just try to be less confrontational when discussing what you like/don't like (that means everyone in this thread).

These boards are not a multiboxer software resource competition. We're SHARING information, and the first part to SHARING implies SOCIAL SKILLS. Try to be nice, people.

If you want to share what you like about Octopus, make a share what you like about Octopus thread.
If you want to share some repro steps for bugs in Keyclone, either PM Keyclone directly or start a Keyclone bug thread.

These two pieces of software are pretty different by nature -- one being open source and the other being a dev-supported purchaseable product. If you'd like to contribute to the knowledge base, I'm all for it. Just be nice when you do it.

[geoffdavison]

If you'd like to contribute to the knowledge base, I'm all for it. Just be nice when you do it.

Preach sista!!!

[Wilbur]

...Its not a competition?

Dang :-S

[Djarid]

What Vyndree said!

I avoided posting here, naively hoping this topic would be shuffled down onto the other pages asap

[Havelcek]

As an aside, there is definitely an issue in core-WoW where a following character will seem to lose sync with the main character and break follow on its own. I have dual-boxed for a long time with no software help, literally just following and hitting keys on both computers and this happens to me every once in a while. Its likely a lag issue and a packet gets dropped that causes follow to stop without the character getting a "stop moving" command back from the server.