Best Class To Multibox GR50 Quickly

[Cmoidudu]

The problem with DH is that at high GRs, they will be constantly one-shot by every ranged spell. However, I haven't tried the updated sets with 30% damage reduction (Natalia) or 20% (Hellborn).

[Ellay]

Wizards feel like the exact same way though being 1 shot.

[Cmoidudu]

Right now, my Wizard team is incredibly much tougher than my Demon Hunter was.

First, when you have 4 stacks of Tal Rasha, it means that you have 100% more resistance to Fire, Cold, Arcane and Lightning. And, since Wizards have high Intelligence, they are already in the 1.5k+ range, so we're talking 3.3k+ resistance there. That helps a lot.

Then Energy Armor + Force Armor, a no-brainer for high GRs.

But once again, I haven't tried the new DH sets...

[Devile]

The only thing I know is u need at least 1 Crusader in your party. I'm farming Golden Flenses with my Condem Crusaders with the only difference of replacing SoJ with CoE. F&R is too painful to keep up permAC so I went with RoRG + CoE which is far better than SoJ. Had the idea to add 1 Roland's crusader with Shield Bash. Holy shit! I'm spamming 8b crits on elites depending if I have AC up. RG fight went down from a minute to a few seconds. It's CRAZY single target damage. RG for GR37 literally goes down under 10 secs. The charge sucks but if u get used to moving to your targets instead of aiming at them, its fairly easy to deal with. The main problem with it is survivability since it doesnt have permaAC and no APD but at least for low GR40s is perfect.

[Devile]

Well, got sick of farming Golden Flenses. Not a single one, not even non ancient for a week. Is it really that rare? I remember I had 1 on each char but when I cleaned my stash, decided to get rid of all of them since it was a useless weapon :/ I was even spending all my shards on 2H weapons and nothing.

Anyway, took a break of farming that thing and started playing DHs. Already got full sets for UE and I'm doing pretty good. The only problem ... fucking Dead Man's Legacy is as rare as Golden Flenses!!! I can't believe I haven't got a single one. Is not just the amount of GR40+ that I've done but the amount of shards invested is just insane. I remember Bombardier's Rucksack was pretty rare and hard to get but I've got like 5 of those yesterday alone but not a single Dead Man's.

Even got a few Kridershots, 1 Ancient for a nice Lightning UE build, but no Dead Mans. Really weird RNG.

[Ellay]

How much more damage do DH's pump out than Crusaders?
I'd love to be able to push Crusaders or something else higher in the grifts but it seems DH's are far and away the damage kings. Especially on boss fights.

[Zwizm]

I dunno. I'll revisit 54+ GR's tonight but I'm pretty sure the RG only takes 2-2.5 minutes to kill with Wizards at that level, which seems pretty decent to me.

[Devile]

How much more damage do DH's pump out than Crusaders?
I'd love to be able to push Crusaders or something else higher in the grifts but it seems DH's are far and away the damage kings. Especially on boss fights.

Well, DHs have like 3 different builds for GR and Multishot is great for speedruns but not that great for GR50+. I can see 1b+ crits but I don't have all the gear for this build. With the quiver I should be doing almost twice the damage. It's very good AoE damage and single target too. Besides u play very far and safe (in most cases). Can't compare with Crusaders cause this build is not the best for higher GR and also I dont have all items needed, the quiver being the most important and also multishot damage everywhere. My Crusader has a Furnace and shield bash damage ... hits like a truck.

I think Multishot is very good for GR40-45 speedruns, but dont think it will work for anything higher than that. Natalya's or UE Lightning are prolly the best for GR50+ and comparable with Crusaders, specially the Lightning build.

I think I have everything for a Natalya's Strafe build but that thing has desync written all over! It should work much better than multishot, but I'm not sure. I even have several ancient weapons for that build, but I dunno. Haven't got much time to play these past few days.

[Ellay]

I'm wondering if somehow a full crusader build can pull off high grifts. Their damage capable and they can log down everything they are hittingwith 4 constant 50% chance stun.
Been toying with the idea of trying out 3 Saders + a monk for the exploding palm goodness, using shield bash. You get that massive single target and the aoe comes naturally. Although thinking out loud on a boss, there is nothing locking it down.. hmm.
At least there is options and Blizzard posted recently they plan on fixing perma CC, most assume from WD. I'll be happy when that style is taken out.

[Devile]

I think it can work but it will all come to survivability. The stun is not reliable, alltho is very good, but in high GR, white mobs hurt so u will need a good amount of damage reduction to survive. Iron Skin + Laws of Justice Immovable Object + Consecration + APD will be kinda mandatory. With some CDR, I'm pretty sure it can work.