I may give the rapier/loki a shot, my current "ddd" pilot is only a temp as he finishes training into remote armor rep 5 and electronics upgrades 5 so he can fly the nestor. My main (which is stuck in the nestor till said ddd pilot is done in another 10 days) can fly all the fun stuff so i'll be trying different compositions as i get more comfortable and the fleet matures. At first i figured "ya i can have this up and going in 2 months..." 4 months later and i'm just getting into running, anyone who says this is just "too easy and an isk faucet" has obviously never tried to put together a fleet let alone actually fly one. I would put the stress levels at "riding a motorcycle at 90% of it's performance envelope" levels. it's manageable till the rear breaks loose and you get that adrenaline surge as you have to react or die.