Team Security EVE Fanfest presentation 1500 GMT on Saturday March 21st

[Ughmahedhurtz]

For those who missed it

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The [...] is the problem, IMO.

They showed this, which shows they take multiboxing with client modification more serious than actual botting or buying isk

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Do we have a solid definition of "client modification" yet?

[Dranny817]

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[Tool of Society]

Will try and find the video of what he said, but no roll overs no round robins no input broadcasting hardware or software, No 3rd party software used to play Eve.

They did show video fx but then didn't say much about it but with saying no 3rd party to play eve I think it pretty much covers anything that changes the client from it original format and changes the way the game is played which means no dashboard set-ups.

Was hoping someone would be at the Q&A to get a better answer but not seen anything yet.

They did cover 3rd party as in you can use EvE mon and all the others as they do not directly effect the way the game is played I think he said.


http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/b/639617004

Starts @ 04:21:55 for multiboxing.

So I'm not allowed to play in windowed mode now? What is the state I mean CCP authorized resolution for gameplay so I don't fall a foul of the original format?

[Dranny817]

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[Tool of Society]

why would you not be allowed to play in windows mode ? Is that not part of the settings within the game ?

Well when you run in windowed mode you're using a third part program (windows mac whatever) to modify how the game appears in client. There's also a variety of tweaks you can to do to windows that changes the way the game is played. Hell once could say running in windowed mode changes how the game is played when compared to fullscreen. Windows based games can all be changed to windowed mode even the ones that don't have it as an option. ALT+enter will window mode about anything. So I guess one could argue that since there's an option it's allowed.

What I'm saying is their logic or at least the wording really sucks.

He said anyone that uses 3rd party software to play eve is against the rules.

An unmodified client as far as they are concerned is EvE as it is shipped (installed) any 3rd party used to play eve is not allowed and by all accounts if they have not changed the Eula then it never has, It is just being enforced more now.

As he said it has always been in the Eula and it has not been changed.

Unless I have heard something wrong or misunderstood it then you are no longer allowed to use Isboxer to multiboxing in Eve, unless it is for the basic actions which have been stated.

Hopefully someone can say other wise, But for now it is alt-tabbing for me.

That's what I'm talking about. Operating systems are third party programs. Video card drivers are third party programs. The mouse driver is a third party program. All of which can effect how the game is displayed and how it is played. All of those are technically somehow banned now. Oh I wonder if you change windows so you don't have to hit alt+tab to change windows if that would be bannable too?

If nothing else that makes catalyst control panel and the nvidia geforce experience both bannable. Why? Well in those programs you can change how the card renders graphics and as such change how in game content appears.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/b/639617004

Starts @ 04:21:55 for multiboxing.

Excellent. Thanks for the link!

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"...the better we get at identifying patterns the more we can do to keep this to a limit." So they really do want to limit the number of accounts per person.

That and the security guys repeating that they really, really like seeing this graph I take to mean multiboxing en toto was a primary target, regardless of claims that "multiboxing" is OK. Not a malicious target but it was still a primary motivation.

I think a very interesting bit of this was that the price of PLEX (or put another way, price per billion ISK; covered several minutes later) did not materially change due to the multiplexing policy change. Since that doesn't correlate to the drop in accounts per player, that suggests this was a gameplay factor rather than an economy factor, which disagrees with some of the things mentioned by silly CSMs, pretty much confirming that those people have no more data than we players do.