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    Cheers guys.

    Time to level Monks, DH's & Crusaders in normal mode. Think I'll wait for S3 before starting a season.

    Are Wizards really that bad? 4 firebird dots?
    Last edited by Grondir : 03-08-2015 at 06:45 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doom1332 View Post
    I guarantee you Fire Tempest Rush monks is the fastest. I have the exact same setup as www.twitch.tv/streamerhouse (look at the VODs and watch inigo's setup), you're running so fast through mobs and they die instantly, and for elites you quickly cast Wave of light and off you go again. I used to do Condemn Crusaders before and, while they are also fast, monks are waaaay faster if you're doing it right (copy the Inigo's setup from the link above).
    The first time I saw someone multiboxing was in Inigo's stream. That's actually what got me multiboxing . So yeah, I'm well aware of his build, yet IMO nothing beats Crusaders. TR monks are very fast, but the perma immunity to CC makes a world of difference. Sure Epiphany helps with CC but u dont have 100% uptime unless u go with dual wield with high CDR. U will always face packs or even white mobs that slow u down (those stupid spider webs, those freezing mobs from act 5, etc) and knock u back or worse fear u. U won't die, but it will slow down your farming cause of the dsyncs. So no, monks are not the fastest at all. Crusaders can keep 100% AC fairly easy and that's 0 CC all the time which means no dsyncs. In ideal situations, without knockback/slow/fear, sure they are the fastest, hands down but that's not the case. Was forgetting Waller ... Crusaders can go thru them too.

    As for Fire against Lightning and WoL. Disagree. In close maps sure, its amazing but once u hit open maps its just inefficient. U have to run around a LOT more than with Lightning. With Lightning u get the same as Fire but your AoE is huge in comparison cause of all the little tornados that do decent damage and TR itself which has a 20 yards AoE. And I rather use EP than WoL. I use EP on 3 monks and Implosion in 1 so I can pull pretty much the whole screen and kill it in a single blow. Also, WoL is bad if u use Hexing Pants ... RG and some yellows can take longer than usual, tho T6 is a joke now anyway. Cindercoat is amazing but then u are forced to use another sweeping wind but Fire which sucks, unless u wanna ditch Taeguk. Meaning your sweeping wind will deal less damage, assuming it actually does damage cause of the small vortex. Lightning stacks more damage overall when u TR since u use the same element for EP, TR and SW.

    And before u say so, yes Inner Fire is an amazing skill that covers the whole screen, but does very little damage when there's good density. U will rely on your Sunwuko's bonus to kill stuff and that can't cover much area at the same time. Not to mention it only lasts 15 secs and then u will have to run around to kill stuff or start using WoL for high density spread trash.

    I've tried all those builds for weeks and Lightning feels more efficient. I kill at the same rate as with Fire, single pass = dead whites, but I can cover a lot more in open maps than with Fire. Also, no Cindercoat = Leoric's Crown for more CDR and less CC risk and more toughness as well cause I can use Desert Shroud.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grondir View Post
    Cheers guys.

    Time to level Monks, DH's & Crusaders in normal mode. Think I'll wait for S3 before starting a season.

    Are Wizards really that bad? 4 firebird dots?
    They aren't bad but with 2.1.2 changes, the other classes feel a lot better. Also, u have no other options than going with Firebird's with Fire as the only viable element.
    Last edited by Devile : 03-08-2015 at 05:53 PM

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