It is kind of warranted though. Pre-broadcast nerf, Nightmares were THE boat to use. Superior tracking/alpha, great buffer, they were ideal for a Vanguard multiboxer and they warranted the price. Now however, in my opinion at least, drone assist is the solution. Domi vs Ishtar, I've only EFT'd it, but armor Domi looks to be a great contender for 'new hot shit' for Vanguards, and it costs less than an Ishtar, has more buffer, has almost equal tracking, with really the only downside being warp/align speed.
Having now run ~20 Vanguard sites, I've noticed that DPS is not important. Application is WAY more important. I have no doubts that heavy drones would work with the correct setup. However, because the travel time is greater than 0s, and there are 25+ frigates per site, AND they don't orbit nearly as tightly as sleeper frigates, your heavies are going to be MWD'ing all over the place and taking up time. In sleeper sites, Ogres were amazing, as they rarely had to MWD as the frigates were typically within optimal.
Because there are so many low EHP targets, it in my opinion makes more sense to go sentries, even if half of them are missing due to transversal. I end up killing a frigate every ~12 seconds(sentry lock + 2 salvo) and now with the 4 web Loki, I immediately double web the second target and it also dies in ~12 seconds.
Now I want to try armor Domis, as the tracking goes from ~0.075 on my rattlesnakes to something like 0.103 or so. If it means occasionally I one-shot a frigate, that'll speed up clear times. With my skills it is a slight paper DPS drop, but application should go up.
Going to keep running with the Rattlesnakes for a little while longer, I want to get comfortable with all the sites and it is nice having ~180k EHP of buffer
Originally Posted by gomeler
It is kind of warranted though. Pre-broadcast nerf, Nightmares were THE boat to use. Superior tracking/alpha, great buffer, they were ideal for a Vanguard multiboxer and they warranted the price. Now however, in my opinion at least, drone assist is the solution. Domi vs Ishtar, I've only EFT'd it, but armor Domi looks to be a great contender for 'new hot shit' for Vanguards, and it costs less than an Ishtar, has more buffer, has almost equal tracking, with really the only downside being warp/align speed.
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