Quote Originally Posted by Tool of Society View Post
Why?

Because the train time was a tiny fraction of what you're suggesting (pretty much non existent for my NM pilots)? It would take at least 45 days for me to even get all the dps into the ishtar and additional time to actually get the skills up to a decent point. The Domi's EHP is better so while I'm assigning drones I don't have to worry about stuff getting nearly one shot? Let alone the random gank attempts I've had over the years. I like being able to run when the influence isn't 0%? The cost of replacement for my domi's is a fraction of what your ishtars cost? I don't want a billion isk in implants per character? I don't want to tie my fleet to a ship that has a hull bonus that will very likely be nerfed due to the mob mentality on the eve forums? My domis do about 1083 dps with about 792 coming from the drones. Have you ever used heavies in VGs?

I didn't lose anything and I'm pretty convinced you just scanned my post without actually reading it..

Your 7400 m/s drones are going to miss galore till they slow down. Even the gila user which had medium drones has issues with the first volley or two missing due to MWD.
Training time is just as much - sentries require the same amount of training that heavy drones do since the drone change. If your complaint is the ishtar, you can easily use the vexor navy as a cheaper (and slightly worse) alternative, which requires much less training than the dominix. It also boasts a superior tank to the ishtar.

Replacement cost? Are you actually trying to insinuate that your domis are going to be insured? That's the only difference in replacement cost between the two ships, and unless you're truly terrible you shouldn't be losing your entire domi fleet before insurance runs out.

The hull bonus on ishtars is twofold - there is one set of bonuses pertaining to sentries, and another entirely different set pertaining to heavies. The one folks are complaining about - sentry tracking and range - is entirely separate from the heavy drone speed and heavy drone tracking, which have remained untouched. There are several calls, in fact, to push the ishtar into being exclusively a Heavy boat, with it's bonuses to sentries removed. Do your research.

The discussion here seems to be entirely based around drones, with gomeler specifically stating that with the changes to isboxer he can't be bothered to click like a madman to use guns, or risk getting banned for using various techniques which appear to be in the new grey area with CCP.

I don't do incursions, but I know all there is to know about weapons and their application to various targets; I speak from pvp experience so I don't know 100% about how things work in incursions specifically.

The gila has no tracking bonus - these heavies would track significantly better than his drones would. There would be no issues for damage application.

My only thought in regards to your post?
I'm pretty convinced you just scanned my post without actually reading it..
Or maybe you just have a limited grasp on game mechanics and various weapons systems. vOv