The Banned thread

[MiRai]

Let's see Lax and the CSM try to spin THIS one!

Spin what? His prior post on the matter seemed to be pretty spot on:

Players and GMs cannot be expected to tell the difference between input broadcasting, round-robin, video fx with rollover, etc. If you're being observed and look too efficient, they're going to temp ban you. And when your excuse is to show them your uber-clever workaround of the rules "hey I'm not broadcasting, I'm using round-robin" blah blah, they can't verify it and really don't care. All they have to do is agree with the reporting player that an unfair advantage is gained, regardless of your methodology, and temp ban you.

[bugme143]

Spin what? His prior post on the matter seemed to be pretty spot on:

Except we were promised explicitly that they had the means to differentiate between the three and would only target input duplication/broadcasting. If a GM doesn't give a shit about the game he was hired to police, he should quit or be fired. We the players have sunk time, money, and effort into this game, and we're supposed to be OK with what may be some Indian call center rent-a-GM who wishes he was back at home instead of at work? I don't buy it.

As for "unfair advantage", we've had this discussion millions of times in the weekly GD threads of the people crying about "wah my kitchen sink noob incursion fleet lost a contest with a super-bling super skilled isboxer", "wah someone mined 'my' minerals in the asteroid belt", "wah my AFK hauling freighter with 20b worth of blue loot and deadspace modules got ganked in Niarja", and my personal favorite, "wah my fleet was sitting on a planet 100% AFK with no scouts and we got bombed".

[thedevilyouknow]

As for "unfair advantage", we've had this discussion millions of times in the weekly GD threads of the people crying about "wah my kitchen sink noob incursion fleet lost a contest with a super-bling super skilled isboxer", "wah someone mined 'my' minerals in the asteroid belt", "wah my AFK hauling freighter with 20b worth of blue loot and deadspace modules got ganked in Niarja", and my personal favorite, "wah my fleet was sitting on a planet 100% AFK with no scouts and we got bombed".

There is a theme here
If you are TOO good, at controlling multiple accounts, you will be banned

I.e. if, as you say, but time, money and effort into EVE and work extremely diligently, and eventually compete against a group of other players, drunk, messing around and putting in 10% effort, and you beat them in whatever way, you will be banned

If they cannot differentiate between the three, then we have a problem, also have a problem where if there is a "Indian call center rent-a-gm" who receives X amount of petitions on certain characters, and auto bans them, then any multiboxer who was previously banned will receive a permanent ban and be done with the game.

Bottom line is, we have no leverage and are expendable
CCP has inadvertently shaken consumer confidence - that is an undeniable fact regardless of whether you have been banned or not, as logically, if you see a governing force of any description, suddenly change its ways, or penalize a population for previously unstated reasons then yes you should be worried.

Also this poem comes to mind, for some reason...

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10007392