The Banned thread

[LordsServant]

As long as you were doing everything aboveboard, petition, then escalate it until someone provides you an actual response.

Buttmad bears spamming petitions is gonna happen, but as long as everything was 100% aboveboard and you can prove so, you should eventually get unbanned.

If you're getting a cut and paste response from some bottom tier GM who doesn't actually play the game nor has any experience with it, ofc they might not have a clue and might've hit the ban button without thinking.

Just keep asking for it to continue to be escalated until a senior GM looks at it. Be polite, don't rage, and don't make silly threats about the EULA or RL legal action.

They will ban all of your accounts simply because the rules on macro use is that all of your accounts are permabanned, it has nothing to do with whether they were involved or not.

For example, if you were botting and RMTing, they'd ban all of your chars, not just the ones you were botting and RMTing on.

If it's a mistake, don't worry, and keep petitioning/asking for it to be escalated. If you're 100% innocent then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

[thedevilyouknow]

Seperate post to specifically detail what i have and have not done - if it mentions edits, it is due to the fact i was editting the original post and created a new one so people would not have to look specifically look for the edits (sorry forum guys, hope this is okay)

Okay since I did just get on the eve general forums to check up on the input duplication thread, and i did realize that my original post is quite lacking in content (mostly due to the shock of the "oh look, i'm banned...winning eve")

Disclaimer, (as stated in the original post) Have a Razor keyboard with inbuilt macro functionality
Have had in the past, and for computer programming reasons, had macros installed (coded? uhh....recorded!) on the keyboard, non of which are specifically EVE related
Anyone who is familiar with razor keyboard software will know that they allow profiles, my default profile is "off" no macros of any kind, and the keyboard is programmed to swap if a specific file is launched.

Regarding input duplication, have followed the rules, and while some people might find it controversial, I have been using a mixture of video FX and round robin keys to conduct my activities.
No input duplication of any kind has been used, any key regarding the game i have been using has been round robin

Shadow: Not entirely sure how to upload my setup but to be frank it is quite easy to duplicate and doesn't require much imagination. Keymap'd round robin to f1, f2, f3, f4, and locking targets, also right click
Also some of these were not actually based on the original keystroke (I.E. right click was rebound to a keyboard stroke -THIS IS NOT A MACRO - it is a keybind, that can be done through the game client as well)

As to my incursion setup, it was previously, 12 NM 1 Basi setup shown by Tonksi in a youtube video, very simple to do and did not require much effort: also no 3+ step hotkeys for drone recall was used either (just fyi)

To clarify, I have been playing eve for...probably 4+? 5+? years now, In the incursion setup i had the 12 NM, 1 logi pilot, 1 booster, and the 1 main account.
Totaling in 15 accounts (ikr )
All 15 accounts have been given a temporary ban, of 30 days by CCP Peligo

Reason: You have been banned for 30 days by CCP Peligro. The reason specified was: EULA/TOS Violation - Macro Use
Copy paste from ban notice when trying to login

Unless this is fixed by CCP, which has not replied to the ticket since the original post date 29th Jan, and the ban revoked, i will not continue to be play EvE Online, including on the main account, due to the nature of CCP of these matters as of late, including but not limited to

The refusal to answer support tickets (not only regarding bans) of any questioning nature as to what is and is not acceptable post 1st Jan, being redirected to the forum post and just dumped there.

Refusal to hold a public meeting regarding the change

Any other reasons seem abit bitter so i shall not share them, but my respect for the game company has dropped, and while i may miss the Eve community in general, and some of the friends i have there, I can't in good conscious continue to pay (yes i payed for some of those accounts IRL money, the main account being subbed for full year cycles every January) for a game that is owned by a company that whores the premise of it being beneficial to have multiple accounts, yet does this.
Even though i have the option to continue to play eve after the 30 day ban, I doubt i will as, unless this issue is settled, any more time invested into this game after the bans lapse may just result in a permanent ban that will make all the effort moot.

Good luck to you all out there, will possibly update as this progresses

Can't have my stuff

[brammator]

01/31 11:59 (brammator) you won't believe what did CCP do with my petition about round-robin.
01/31 12:00 (brammator) they just remove it.
01/31 12:05 (s***********) that ridiculas, they dont even allow you to make a valid argument
01/31 12:06 (brammator) wasn't an argument
01/31 12:06 (brammator) it was just a #$%&@&#^ question
01/31 12:06 (s***********) oh thats even worse ! lol
01/31 12:08 (s***********) its not supprising though, this is the same kind of thing that trion/glyph does
01/31 12:09 (s***********) instead of being smart, they just make them selves look smart posts
01/31 12:09 (s***********) by removing *
01/31 12:11 (s***********) my kids aged 10 and 13 do the same thing, if we play cards they will look at my hand and just take away the winning cards so i cant win :P... says alot for ccp
01/31 12:17 (A**) xD
01/31 12:21 (Lavish) [dual-boxing.com] EVE Online: Information on setup, and the ban - thedevilyouknow - http://goo.gl/TpdDhO
01/31 12:24 (brammator) talk about devil.
01/31 12:25 (s***********) hehehe

I hope your and mine questions both get resolved soon.

EDIT: found my petition. First I checked all my accounts without luck and get furious, and then I found it on TEST support site. Go me.

[Tool of Society]

Yeah I stopped playing rift some time ago due to Trion's stupidity.

I'm leery of round robin usage. I think if you use it too quickly it'll hit two or more clients on the same server tick which then causes issues. I'm personally using click through videoFX. I haven't run in the last week though.


Thank you for sharing this with us. You might help prevent more bans with this information.

[thedevilyouknow]

Thank you for sharing this with us. You might help prevent more bans with this information.

That was the idea

[Mosg2]

I was told by a reputable source that even though the server processes actions in 1 second ticks, the game captures the timestamp of your button click to the millisecond and sends that, too. If that is so, then they are perhaps just flagging and banning any clicks that come too close? Ionno.

[bugme143]

I was told by a reputable source that even though the server processes actions in 1 second ticks, the game captures the timestamp of your button click to the millisecond and sends that, too. If that is so, then they are perhaps just flagging and banning any clicks that come too close? Ionno.

Most of us also were told this.

[Khatovar]

All "Banned" threads merged. Please keep all "I'm banned" posts to one spot since it's all the same topic - we don't need multiple threads on the same topic.

[Tool of Society]

I'm seriously of the belief that round robin is the issue. My petition asked about round robin but the response was completely unhelpful with basically a link to that one thread which I posted in.


I have been actively using isboxer +8 hours a day for a variety of tasks which do not involve round robin. I am NOT using videofx for the most part either currently.

i use the repeater to log in and open windows or such but that's it.


My incursion running was all videoFX at first but I added in a round robin for F1 after a week or less. I used the videofx round robin setup for a week or so before the rage popping stopped my incursion running last week. When I did use round robin I made it a clear point to press it once a second basically.


EDIT : I've had a few arguments in local about isboxer being banned and I've been involved in several discussions across several public channels so I've probably been reported a few times.

[bugme143]

Except it doesn't make sense, since Round Robin sends 1 command to 1 client per click / key press. CCP doesn't even know what they're banning themselves.