The Banned thread

[bugme143]

And not every player can use EVEMon, or PYFA, or EFT, or use Fuzzworks to it's full extent, or use whatever that new market thing that shadow mentioned, or..... do I need to go on? If CCP wants to ban one thing that has ZERO PROOF THAT IT CREATES AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE and has serious weaknesses to EWAR, then they need to ban anything that looks like it can create an unfair advantage. Anyone can bind "Scroll Wheel Down" as F1, and indeed many FPS players bind SWD for M1 for pistols or semi-autos.
We have been shown no evidence that ISBoxer creates an advantage, and indeed there's quite a bit of evidence about it's weakness. We have seen, in response to our statements and evidence and request to be left alone: ad hominem attacks, strawman fallacies, True Scotsman fallacies, outright insults, verbal abuse, Kafkatraps, and a general lack of knowledge of the program and of the EULA.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Kafkatraps

I learned something today. I knew about the concept but never heard a name put to it. o7

[bugme143]

I learned something today. I knew about the concept but never heard a name put to it. o7

Well well, I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks!

jk

[LordsServant]

And not every player can use EVEMon, or PYFA, or EFT, or use Fuzzworks to it's full extent, or use whatever that new market thing that shadow mentioned, or..... do I need to go on? If CCP wants to ban one thing that has ZERO PROOF THAT IT CREATES AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE and has serious weaknesses to EWAR, then they need to ban anything that looks like it can create an unfair advantage. Anyone can bind "Scroll Wheel Down" as F1, and indeed many FPS players bind SWD for M1 for pistols or semi-autos.
We have been shown no evidence that ISBoxer creates an advantage, and indeed there's quite a bit of evidence about it's weakness. We have seen, in response to our statements and evidence and request to be left alone: ad hominem attacks, strawman fallacies, True Scotsman fallacies, outright insults, verbal abuse, Kafkatraps, and a general lack of knowledge of the program and of the EULA.

Evemon does not interact with the game client. You are clicking the buttons to train the skills it advises you to.

PYFA and EFT both do not interact with the game client - you are clicking the buttons to fit the ship as you choose ingame.

Fuzzworks also....does not interact with the game client. It simply advises you on what t do.

Please do go on.....

Ofc anyone could bind scroll wheel down to f1, but guess what? Scrolling down won't activate f1 on all of their chars - just the one currently selected.

You need to go from one to the next THEN scroll down or do w/e you bound f1 to.

Round Robin, per CCP's ALREADY STATED RULES of 1 input = 1 output already clearly show that to be against their new regulations.

It WOULD be legal to scroll down(hitting f1), go to the next client, then scroll down again.

1 input = 1 output.

Again, with videofx only - I click once ingame, and then I manually move my mouse over to wherever else, then manually click the ingame button for w/e again.

Just stick to doing things as close to the original client as possible, while avoiding shenanigans and STRICTLY interpret the eula - you should be fine.

[moog]

Surely, sitting on a gate with a 10-man remote sebo fleet is a hugely unfair advantage over little ole me just tootling through lowsec?

Where do I submit my 'refund' request when I'm ganked that way?

[Tool of Society]

I can run 8 accounts easily on my old e7200 dual core system which is about 6 or so years old now. The major limiting factor is ram.

[Mosg2]

@Lords
Sorry dude, but the response is pretty clear: Anything you're doing, no matter what program etc, doesn't matter; they're only looking at how efficient you are. VFX do speed things up, obviously, because you don't have to tab to that window and move your mouse as far to do that action. Don't be disingenuous.

[thedevilyouknow]

@Lords
Sorry dude, but the response is pretty clear: Anything you're doing, no matter what program etc, doesn't matter; they're only looking at how efficient you are. VFX do speed things up, obviously, because you don't have to tab to that window and move your mouse as far to do that action. Don't be disingenuous.

Pretty much this, if you have an advantage against anyone just playing the game as it was shipped, they can, ban you at any time

[bugme143]

Rollover: One button per 1 action.
Round Robin: One button per 1 action.

CCP's policy is very clear: ANYTHING that may provide an advantage is bannable. Doesn't matter if it interacts with the client or not. If CCP wants to enforce a relatively small part of their EULA on a relatively small group of players who want to be left the fuck alone and who don't, in any measurable or appreciable way, cause players to leave the game, they ought to enforce the EULA on everyone. /sarcasm

[LordsServant]

Rollover: One button per 1 action.
Round Robin: One button per 1 action.

CCP's policy is very clear: ANYTHING that may provide an advantage is bannable. Doesn't matter if it interacts with the client or not. If CCP wants to enforce a relatively small part of their EULA on a relatively small group of players who want to be left the fuck alone and who don't, in any measurable or appreciable way, cause players to leave the game, they ought to enforce the EULA on everyone. /sarcasm

No matter how many times you say that, it doesn't make it true.

Round Robin = 2 actions, 1 input.

I'm not 100% sure on how you guys are doing rollover, since my original idea for rollover (spamming f1 then moving your mouse along the windows to swap focus) is far different from w/e one is "popular" now, but I'd be willing to bet it'd be 2 actions for 1 input similar to Round Robin.

It's pretty simple; stick to straightforward perfectly simple stuff that is just like the game in its original format......or you can continue whining about GMs, conspiracy theories, and do illegal things until you're banned.

The choice is pretty easy for me. vOv