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    Default CCP prohibiting input broadcasting/multiplexing beginning January 2015

    https://forums.eveonline.com/default...71&find=unread

    Playing with multiple accounts at the same time has a long history within EVE Online, and has always been permitted. There are various ways to do it, and since there’s been a lot of discussion surrounding what is and isn’t allowed, we’d like to clarify a few terms and exactly how the EULA and our Policies must be interpreted and how some things are shifting.

    Over the last few weeks we have gone through an internal review process to clarify what exactly the EULA and ToS require in terms of input automation, input multiplexing and input broadcasting. This is the result of that review process and an outline of how we will interpret things going forward.

    Firstly we’d like to go over a few terms.

    Multiboxing

    Multiboxing refers to playing as multiple separate characters, simultaneously, across a number of accounts, either by using multiple computers to run the game, or by using a number of instances of EVE on a single computer.

    Uses for multiboxing range from scouts in PvP to gang boosting, support and ECM alts, as well as extra characters for hauling, mining and many other applications. Based on our EULA and Policies we would like to clarify that multiboxing is allowed.

    Input Automation

    Input Automation refers to actions that are commonly also referred to as botting or macroing. This term is used to describe, but is not limited to, the automation of actions which have consequences in the EVE universe.

    Input Broadcasting & Input Multiplexing

    Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing refer to the multiplication of inputs, actions and events to multiple instances of the game.

    Going Forward

    As of 15th of March 2013 we have been policing input automation based on a two-strike policy

    • 1st strike for input automation is a 30 day ban
    • 2nd strike for input automation is a permanent ban

    Input Automation remains strictly prohibited, and is policed under our suspension and ban policy.

    Based on the discussion in this area and our will to be more clear and concise with the community regarding this part of our rules, we have decided to also apply this two-strike policy to prohibited forms of Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing as of January 1st 2015.

    We would like to add, however, that we will not be taking action retroactively and will only be policing this policy as of January 1st, 2015.


    Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing of actions with consequences in the EVE universe, are prohibited and will be policed in the same manner as Input Automation.

    This includes, but isn’t limited to:

    • Activation and control of ships and modules
    • Navigation and movement within the EVE universe
    • Movement of assets and items within the EVE universe
    • Interaction with other characters

    Examples of allowed Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are actions taken that do not have an impact on the EVE universe and are carried out for convenience:

    • EVE Online client settings
    • Window positions and arrangements (of the EVE Online client in your operating system’s desktop environment)
    • The login process

    NOTE: Please keep in mind that using the same password for multiple accounts as well as storing your password in a third party tool or script which helps you to automate the login process can increase the risk of account theft and hacking drastically. It is strongly recommended that you do not engage in this type of activity.

    We are closely monitoring all game events for suspicious activity suggesting illicit behaviors, including Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing.

    We would like to clarify that it does not matter how Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are being done, whether through use of software or modified hardware. Our only concern is regarding how it is being used in the EVE universe.

    If you are uncertain about your Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing use-case, please get in contact with us, as we would prefer to work with members of the community to come to an amicable resolution. We will also follow up this statement with further clarifications if needed, based on questions and concerns from the community.

    TL:DR :

    Starting from 01.01.2015 the use of Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing is limited to activities which do not impact the Eve universe. For more details please refer to the entirety of this announcement.
    Last edited by Khatovar : 11-25-2014 at 01:12 PM Reason: format
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    Default CCP update regarding automation

    If you have not read this devpost then you can find it here https://forums.eveonline.com/default...posts&t=387571 .

    I am writing a evemail to CCP Falcon to ask some questions about what we can and cannot do.

    Update to follow.

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    Its pretty cut and dry what you can and cannot do... they've already detailed this:

    Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing of actions with consequences in the EVE universe, are prohibited and will be policed in the same manner as Input Automation.

    This includes, but isn’t limited to:

    • Activation and control of ships and modules
    • Navigation and movement within the EVE universe
    • Movement of assets and items within the EVE universe
    • Interaction with other characters

    ​Examples of allowed Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are actions taken that do not have an impact on the EVE universe and are carried out for convenience:
    • EVE Online client settings
    • Window positions and arrangements (of the EVE Online client in your operating system’s desktop environment)
    • The login process
    Last edited by Khatovar : 11-25-2014 at 01:13 PM Reason: format/unreadable
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    Well I left WOW when they removed /follow and now Eve is going to remove Isboxer. Looks like I am done come January 2015.
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    I do wonder how mineral prices will be affected :P.

    We will lose multiboxers, but I don't think Isboxer will die. There is nothing stopping drone fleets ( manually assigning the drones ).
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    This really doesn't make any sense to me. What good do they think will come of this?
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    Botters have been hiding under the banner of "multiboxing" for a looong time. This removes that scapegoat. Sadly we fall victim at the same time.
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    For any interested here is the official ISBoxer.com thread on the topic: http://isboxer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6360

    My comments are pretty much this in case that's all you'd click for, but other people are posting too.
    This is sad news for ISBoxer users in EVE.

    The good news is that they do stress that "multiboxing is allowed" as long as you don't do this. It does sound like you can still use Video FX dashboards for example as long as you are interacting with a single client at a time and not activating a module on 50 different ships at the same instant. Broadcasting Mode should not be used except when changing client settings or logging in, beginning January 2015.
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    have no idea what is the plan but im glad that my accounts are not plexed for years beforehamd, so from my 14 accounts team only 3 will b active. riprip

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    We have a corp mate on teamspeak commenting on plex prices, Its dropped at around 1mill per min, done to 908 mill atm.

    Edit: Corp mate has now gone for popcorn :P
    Last edited by Dynamite874 : 11-25-2014 at 01:40 PM
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