CCP prohibiting input broadcasting/multiplexing beginning January 2015

[K'man]

This might sound silly but in RL situations when there is a big change that is not favorable to a certain group and there is two sides this would require a townhall meeting as we call it in the government. One person should represent the multiboxers asking very clear and concise questions regarding the limitations in an open environment. This person should be the one who is popular in a sense that people know who they are and one who is very knowledgable of how isboxer works. We have a month to get some answers and make sure it's very clear to the community what is allowed or not by actual words and not vague ambiguity. Flow charts and vague rules are not going to answer these questions we all have. If they can sit down and decide to limit the multi boxing gameplay they can come up with straightforward concise answers that are clearly stated without confounding statements or personal opinions.

[LordsServant]

This might sound silly but in RL situations when there is a big change that is not favorable to a certain group and there is two sides this would require a townhall meeting as we call it in the government. One person should represent the multiboxers asking very clear and concise questions regarding the limitations in an open environment. This person should be the one who is popular in a sense that people know who they are and one who is very knowledgable of how isboxer works. We have a month to get some answers and make sure it's very clear to the community what is allowed or not by actual words and not vague ambiguity. Flow charts and vague rules are not going to answer these questions we all have. If they can sit down and decide to limit the multi boxing gameplay they can come up with straightforward concise answers that are clearly stated without confounding statements or personal opinions.

I like this idea. I'm sending a petition to CCP and will try and poke the people I know to get a response on this.

Expect a meeting like such on my comms hopefully soonish with someone from CCP.

Hopefully this will ease some folks' minds and clarify CCP's policies a bit.

[Gurblash]

Get with Big Country over @ Eve-Radio... I'm sure Dirk and the boys would love to have a "civil" conversation over this.

[shadowandlight]

I'd love to attend Lord, I've been multiboxing for 6? Years and was probably one of the 1st in EVE to use isboxer.

It would be great to get our more experienced people in on a "Town Hall" meeting with CCP.

[shadowandlight]

Get with Big Country over @ Eve-Radio... I'm sure Dirk and the boys would love to have a "civil" conversation over this.

I'm already going on Dirks show next week about this! Can't wait to wade into it.

[LordsServant]

Ok, chatted with a CSM friend of mine and tossed a petition in.

We'll see what happens.

If this does happen, we will be meeting on my comms with someone from CCP (I got a few specific names, but no guarantees so far).

This will be done in a civil manner in what will be a moderated channel(ie not everyone will be able to talk unless explicitly given permission to).

I will NOT tolerate the kind of sperging I saw on the eve-o forums and to a lesser extent, in the early pages on these forums. We WILL treat CCP with respect and get information in a calm and constructive manner. If all you want is to vent your anger and frustration to CCP don't bother coming - you aren't welcome.
Nobody cares about how angry you are that your 30 accounts are getting unsubbed and fuck CCP and rawr rawr rawr. That only lessens their opinion of us, and I think I can speak for everyone when I say that nobody who is still playing the game wants that.

If you have some questions you want answered, and to hear directly from CCP what their intentions and ideas are behind this change - and you can do this in a respectful manner, you are welcome to come.

I urge people to start formulating a list of questions - you can post them here, PM them to me here, or mail them to me ingame on my character "Lord's Servant" - don't forget the apostrophe.

Let's get some positive change here.

[K'man]

I have collectively compiled a list of quotes directly from those that matter from CCP and CSM. These quotes listed below may be a goodbaseline to formulate questions for the Q&A.

Please record the conversation with the officials and post it on soundcloud for those of us that can’t be there in person to listen.

CCP Falcon has stated that isboxer is not banned. Some of the things isboxer can do are banned. In CCP Falcons opinion on this question “I value the integrity of the game, and its overall health more than I value the numbers. (Umm don’t numbers pay for the bills?) I’d rather see 1 person playing with 19 of his friends, than 1 person using software or hardware to play solo while input broadcasting to 20 accounts. Eve is a game based around interaction with others, and the action and the action that comes from it. Well, that is my personal take on it, at least.”

What I have gathered so far out of several hundred pages in the forums from several different sites.

·CSM states that logging in a dozen clients at the same time is allowed.
·For example using isboxer to start all of them mining at once, with one click: not allowed.
·CSM stated that isboxer has other functions,such as arranging windows to let you move your mouse less between clicks,allowed under this ruling.
·Duplication of keystrokes is not the same as autorepeater
·CCP can detect your actions: Actions are unique and logged, logging accounts on an IP are logged, and owner of accounts.Basically, if you log in 10 accounts under one IP address all owned by you there is the chance that you can and will be monitored however. What is taken into consideration is the logged actions and time response it takes to hit those buttons or assigned keys.
·CCP can detect someone using mouse drivers to send multiple commands with one button.

I will update this as more official posts come along.

[LordsServant]

[1:40:17 PM] *******: aye
[1:44:02 PM] *******: ok shouldnt be a issue
[1:44:11 PM] *******: will probably be falcon and some one from security
[1:44:26 PM] *******: will be a week or 3 sinceheis super busy at the moment

Confirmed(I think?).

Everyone chill the fuck out, start working on questions please.

Feel free to join the ingame channel "Oatmeal" if you want to chat with other multiboxers etc etc.

Spread the word among people you know who multibox if they want to attend. Again, we need to STAY CALM and not flip a shit on CCP. Having more communication back and forth between us and them is only a good thing.

There's a lot of misinformation and hyperbole about multiboxers, and not much back and forth between us and CCP. This will hopefully fix some of that and we want to leave a good impression.

[Dynamite874]

Looking forward to the sit down.

Just want to thank Lords for being able to organise stuff like this .


-- Vamps

[pinotnoir]

I nominate Mosg and Lax to ask questions directly to CCP. I question any multiboxer cheerleading any decision to restrict multiboxing to a game where it was allowed for years. This is a massive change to the norm. Although it's CCP's right to change the rules, we should push back and not praise their decision to swap the rules on us after so many years. There have been many isboxer hate threads posted recently on the eve news websites. I feel this decision was made by the anti boxer lobby that recently has been very vocal on how they think multiboxing is illegal. With a 30 day ban being the first step CCP must be crystal clear on what will be allowed and what is not. A bullshit flow chart is not very clear on the many capabilities of isboxer.