Build 18898 ashran REMOVED FOLLOW!

[Fat Tire]

They could just remove IWT as well as follow in battlegrounds.

I would be ok with that

[Hohoz]

As a multiboxer .... yes some will tell me where to go but :

I feel it shouldn't even be allowed in PvP period , it gives you a edge no matter how you look at it.I played Daoc for many years and I can tell you when you run a proper assist train you're godly in many ways.And that's what Isboxer does is just that , you target,assist and fire off abilities faster then anyone yes I know if you hit a proper set up group blah blah but most of the time that is rare.And if you hit a zerg it's just part of the game

I feel if multiboxers aren't careful more and more games with start banning it because of this especially in PvP games.I think pve is one thing it really effects no ones game play unless you're killing off quest mobs like crazy or something ..... but I feel gaming companies are looking more into this , this is all just a opinion but I am kinda stating what I am seeing transpire over time now.

I would say the 1% of multiboxers in the gaming would cause more companies resources checking into false botting/afking reports then any other thing in a game period.

[pinotnoir]

I'm so glad I quit WOW and moved to EVE Online.

[ebony]

They could just remove IWT as well as follow in battlegrounds.

itw does not work like follow so they can not really stop it they do they have to axe it everywhere, to change ctm the same thing.

there best bet would be nuke mounts and pets we use. (that they already done with mr.soultrader in bg's)


the only other thing would be to stop itw/ctm working like it does. but it goes to how deep coded it in the core a lot of bots been using this system for years and nothing happen as of yet.

[Mosg2]

Well, the "upside" to using the Druid's travel form is that they can't just toggle it on/off like follow on a per zone basis. Because it would take a lot of coding effort to change, they'll have to make a policy statement instead of just trying to neuter what we're capable of doing.

@Hohoz
An assist train of multiboxed toons is better at killing than the same number of solo players who are in voice comms, but certainly not better at surviving. In order to be efficient at multiboxing, we have to simplify many choices so that we're not overwhelmed.

[Mosg2]

https://twitter.com/holinka/status/517519631607537665

Don't spam, but trying to get a simple yes/no as to whether multiboxing in Ashran violates the ToS.

[MadMilitia]

The only time multiboxing in PvP works is like Mosg2 stated. You simplify everything and overload as much burst potential as possible to one shot your way to victory. You do that or you put some serious numbers in your favor and do pointless things like hang around vendors and blow up people in green starter gear. Either way its an unsupported way to play the game that feels and is bottom feeding at a premium. It makes little sense.

You'll never be competitive in a thinking match with 2 / 3 / 5 / 10 humans on the other side of the equation either.

I think the rationale for multiboxing PvP in an MMO starts with getting harassed by a couple guys in the world. Then you think man, if I had 2 or 3 more accounts I would have owned those guys. Then next time they see you, they bring a 5 man team. The arms race mentality goes like that.

Once I stopped multiboxing WoW I oddly started to enjoy it more. Yes, I still ran into those griefers out in the world while soloing but I'm no longer inclined to renew any additional subs because it will be a short-lived satisfaction. I got my 9/9 golds done in like 3 days, got my garry achievement and started to gear up a single toon WAY faster. It just feels like I'm doing a lot less screwing around with setup and more socializing / more progress.

As a multiboxer who went back as far as EQ / MQ my days of mutiboxing are almost certainly over. If it wasn't the overly complicated routines needed for WoW it was the fact that I was paying 5 times as much for half the progress most were making on a single toon. It just didn't add up.

PS: I don't think they will ever remove IWT / CTM as it would raise a serious stink regarding accessibility for handicapped people.

[ebony]

there some replays to the twitter. its sounds really aimed at us now.

Anthony Anderson ‏@_verisimilidude 4h4 hours ago @holinka @JenniferCally Still don't understand why it's a problem--Same thing as a premade group. Are you saying you don't like premades?

Holinka ‏@holinka 4h3 hours ago @_verisimilidude @JenniferCally It is not the same thing.

Anthony Anderson ‏@_verisimilidude 2h1 hour ago @holinka @JenniferCally How so? Focused DPS via assisting, but less survivability. Is multiboxing a ToS violation in Ashran?

@_verisimilidude @JenniferCally There is a social value added to the game when 15 people get together to play.

so any pvp as a boxer then = going to get into shit am reading it. or am going to make life really fucking hard for you.

[Mosg2]

I'm Verisimilidude there. I'm gonna' follow this up until we get a definitive answer.

[ebony]

I'm Verisimilidude there. I'm gonna' follow this up until we get a definitive answer.

ya sad panda for sure. I can not see them saying NO you can not go there at all as the conquest vendors are there. and like i said if because 5/10/100 players killing one player there, what happens if we do it in the normal world. its the same thing. (say timeless island)

Infarct its worse as that's ganking and the player will get a lot less help to take down a boxer, when in ashran they can team up and nuke us like they did in bg's many times.