Fittings and Ships for the beginner Incursion Runner

[K'man]

All of this sounds like a lot of work and studying but gained mostly from experience which I don't have. I used to run incursions when they first came out as a logi as I didn't have the funds around that time to afford the preferred fits on most faction BS. Compared to running sites in a c5 it seems it could be the same amount of isk but with c5 it is a lot cheaper to setup.

My concern is that I would have to start from scratch and running incursions with no experience may cause me to lose more isk than I have available.

What are the thoughts on this idea?

[AlongStory]

All of this sounds like a lot of work and studying but gained mostly from experience which I don't have. I used to run incursions when they first came out as a logi as I didn't have the funds around that time to afford the preferred fits on most faction BS. Compared to running sites in a c5 it seems it could be the same amount of isk but with c5 it is a lot cheaper to setup.

My concern is that I would have to start from scratch and running incursions with no experience may cause me to lose more isk than I have available.

What are the thoughts on this idea?

Risk is relative imho. Once setup and know what your doing... the only risk in a High Sec incursion site is a DC... u would basically have to fall to sleep in a site not to be able to run it if you know what your doing... But that said, the setup cost is expensive if you wish to go optimum shield (sniper NM).

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Vanguard_Incursion_fits

Here are some good fits for Basic Battleships which you can run with about 1 months training!

Come with a INapoc with New Eden Incursions... I am in their channel and we have quite a few boxers in here chatting a lot!

Its really really important to learn how to do the incursions solo without the pressure of targeting + Logi! When I first started I took way too much damage cause I was just to slow to clear out what did most damage! Which means I can end up spending way too much time doing logi and not clearing dps off field...

Between C5 and Incursions. My only question is how many C5's can u constantly do ? Because save drama u can do Incursions everyday anytime of the day with very little risk... ISK is paid directly to you so no selling no hauling... little maintenance. LP on top of ISK which is pretty cool for getting implants.

What I like about my incursion setup is that they are a completely separate entity. They sit there and when I need some ISK or I have free time, I log and run for a couple of hrs and make 600-1.2bil per hr depending on how crowded, site times, general effort... The only problems I ever have is when incursion groups insist on popping moms over and over... but generally prior to this last 2 weeks of constant mom popping it has been run whenever i want for however long i want. Also after like a 5-6month train u can do whatever u want with the other char slots.. When do u stop with a drone setup ? I am guessing u could do something similar with them.

One thing to note is, I have trained my NM's for the prereqs for most T3's as well. I want them to have some value... If there comes a time when this no longer works... or incursions become unviable then I want them to have some resale value so I have tried to add a broad sub cap skill set as possible..

[AlongStory]

Also :

A NM Setup well explained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAbDPHnxLU4


A armor fleet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq4c-WCsS9c

Another armor fleet where he says chars are only 1 month old...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIcGoSAQPeM



1 thing i will say is that a maxed OGB makes a massive difference in site times etc

[K'man]

I like the idea of incursions as it would suit me better as I get distracted very easily by my children. Night before I know I will have several hours to play (while my children and wife are sleeping) I will take my small fleet of expensive ships to the incursion areas. Then I can make some isk for my multiboxing PVP. I can also train them to a point where like you said would be valuable enough to recover some isk and time if I would to sell them later on or things change to a point they are no longer acceptable for incursions.

So your suggesting I run the incursions to learn more about them? It is slightly different when running them on your own as you said you would take out the highest dps npc first and work your way down as to the traditional way of a group of individuals. These are all things I would need to learn. Also with the spawns being random I would think I need to make a cheat sheet of in order npc to kill per spawn till I can memorize them.

Would you suggest the Navy Apoc Idea starting out with the intension of running NM's?

You mentioned you run them do you multibox them solo? What is your setup like?

Thanks for your input it helps out trying to figure out which direction i want to go with my 11 accounts. Only reason I am leaning towards WH sites is because I have lived in them since they came out except for a year when I was helping out some new bros to the game for a year. I am more comfortable in that sense compared to incursions where I only dabbled in them for just a month or two and only rand maybe a dozen sites.

[Alzuule]

another thought is, do you think i would ever be able to find someone to run incursions with where i just run dps ships? atm i got 7 characters with high gunnery and t2 large lasers subbed which atm is in a WH running sites in there in drone boats. Ive never bothered with incursions due to hearing that people there hate boxers and i havent had more then 8 characters untill recently.