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    nope thats running 1 ishtar and 5 VNIs, so i guess its more like 5½ ishtars due to the occasional range issue.

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    I wouldn't consider C5 sub-cap sites to be a decent replacement for running high sec incursions. A whole lot more risk, a whole lot more effort of scanning/scouting, and the cloaky proteus hiding behind every planet.

    I haven't had the chance to run escalations yet, but I think they'd be what your looking for, if you were looking for more ISK/hr per character, albeit with a serious increase in risk.

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    5 rr domis wouldnt do it faster than ishtars, 1 ishtar = 1 domi

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    More or less. There are a few other tricks i use, but those are things that i think only 2 other boxers that i know have figured out. So for now those are trade secrets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacobsalt View Post
    More or less. There are a few other tricks i use, but those are things that i think only 2 other boxers that i know have figured out. So for now those are trade secrets.
    LOL bouncing between posts on the same topic. Okay I respect that you have a trade secret. For a multiboxer that has not run incursions before what do you suggest as a target goal be in regards to ships, fitting, tactics to say get them down to at least 5 minutes in an OTA for example.

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    use the napocs if you are training a new crew, then you can skill up to the nms. if you dont have super skilled nm pilots you will need to run a fed web with boosts. and you will get 5-7 min sites until you get the dual sebo 3tc fit (insta everything).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacobsalt View Post
    use the napocs if you are training a new crew, then you can skill up to the nms. if you dont have super skilled nm pilots you will need to run a fed web with boosts. and you will get 5-7 min sites until you get the dual sebo 3tc fit (insta everything).
    This is what I was targeting as a fitting for the NM.

    [Nightmare, Nightmare]
    Damage Control II
    Imperial Navy Heat Sink
    Imperial Navy Heat Sink
    Imperial Navy Heat Sink
    Imperial Navy Heat Sink
    Imperial Navy Heat Sink


    Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
    Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
    Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
    Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
    Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II


    Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Gamma L
    Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Gamma L
    Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Gamma L
    Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Gamma L
    Large Remote Shield Booster II
    Auto Targeting System II


    Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
    Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
    Large Core Defense Field Extender II

    I analyzed the video with the 12x NM and 1 Basi setup. I guessed on the low slots and rigs but when the mouse hovers over the button to change ammo I'm still off by a few dps even with 4% implants. I have no idea what the auto target mod is for. I thought it to be a good guess although it's not cap stable and if running sites every 3 minutes how's it possible to counter the capacitor issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K'man View Post
    This is what I was targeting as a fitting for the NM.

    [Nightmare, Nightmare]
    Damage Control II
    Imperial Navy Heat Sink
    Imperial Navy Heat Sink
    Imperial Navy Heat Sink
    Imperial Navy Heat Sink
    Imperial Navy Heat Sink


    Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
    Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
    Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
    Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
    Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II


    Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Gamma L
    Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Gamma L
    Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Gamma L
    Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Gamma L
    Large Remote Shield Booster II
    Auto Targeting System II


    Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
    Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
    Large Core Defense Field Extender II

    I analyzed the video with the 12x NM and 1 Basi setup. I guessed on the low slots and rigs but when the mouse hovers over the button to change ammo I'm still off by a few dps even with 4% implants. I have no idea what the auto target mod is for. I thought it to be a good guess although it's not cap stable and if running sites every 3 minutes how's it possible to counter the capacitor issue.
    too many heat sinks, not enough scan res, not enough hp. deadspace the invuln and swap in a te and hyperspatial in the lows. lose the cdfe and em rigs and put in an elutriation rig if you have balls for skills, otherwise put in collision accel. You also forgot drones, and you really only need about 8-10 mins on cap. if you are hurting get the ca-1 ca-2 implants. and presto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacobsalt View Post
    too many heat sinks, not enough scan res, not enough hp. deadspace the invuln and swap in a te and hyperspatial in the lows. lose the cdfe and em rigs and put in an elutriation rig if you have balls for skills, otherwise put in collision accel. You also forgot drones, and you really only need about 8-10 mins on cap. if you are hurting get the ca-1 ca-2 implants. and presto.
    Thats awesome thank you. That will be my goal for training my alts. In the meantime I will get them in napocs and start saving up. I think the fitting on the euni website for the napoc will work till I get better at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K'man View Post
    Thats awesome thank you. That will be my goal for training my alts. In the meantime I will get them in napocs and start saving up. I think the fitting on the euni website for the napoc will work till I get better at them.
    using any more than 3 mods with the same attribute is usually a giant waste of the slot due to stacking penalty effects.

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