From 3 to 4 boxing worth it?

[Enoah35]

Hello,

I am in need of advice. Right now I am playing with 3 accounts to increase my loot chance to gear up my main character (may sound silly but that is the choice I have made). So far I have 2 teams, 3 wizard and 3 wds. Both teams can do T1 relatively smooth and T2 is doing ok, although depends highly on what mob and map I encounter. (still suffer from large open area with act4+act5 charging mobs and running mages).

The issue is that I am still having multiple runs without any loot on any of my characters. Is it worth the effort in increasing to 4 characters to have full members? I know it increases your MF by 10% and some bonus on stats but it is also true that the mobs gain significant boost per character in game.

Any advice is welcome. I am willing to pay for another copy and make another account if it increases the chance of loot drop or progression in question to higher tiers.

P.S. As solo with my main wizard I can do T3 with ease, same with my main WD. But with 3 the increase of mob's health becomes absurd on higher torment.

[Kicksome]

You might as well throw another guy in there since going from 3-4 is super easy. You never know what guy will find the killer loot. I think it's a no brainier personally. I swap gear among my 4 guys all the time when things drops.

[Ellay]

the monster hp with a 4 person group is I think 360% ( I may be off ) but if you characters all do the same exact damage, the monsters hp ends up being smaller overall than if you played a single character solo. So adding a 4th is beneficial, and if you ever want a friend to join in, can always drop one.

[Enoah35]

Thanks for all the replies.

I ended up with 4 accounts in hopes to get better loot. Apparently the game still have streaks of raining with legendary and nothing for a couple of rifts. So far I have 4 WDs and 4 Wizs. Am tempted to try 4 Crusaders too soon. The issue is the usual, some of your members stays in the back (like looted something or got attacked but for whatever reason stops) or goes berserk and rushes ahead like an idiot.

4 Wizards are easier on trash white mobs and elite packs (save those who have nightmare and knockback, along with vortex and other knockback/pullin stuff) but suffer a little on single target bosses. On the contrary WDs are pretty much the opposite with Pet build. Am tempted to try a dot build x3 with 1 pet build but those needs to be more mobile to be effective. Will see.

[Kicksome]

Thanks for all the replies.

I ended up with 4 accounts in hopes to get better loot. Apparently the game still have streaks of raining with legendary and nothing for a couple of rifts. So far I have 4 WDs and 4 Wizs. Am tempted to try 4 Crusaders too soon. The issue is the usual, some of your members stays in the back (like looted something or got attacked but for whatever reason stops) or goes berserk and rushes ahead like an idiot.

4 Wizards are easier on trash white mobs and elite packs (save those who have nightmare and knockback, along with vortex and other knockback/pullin stuff) but suffer a little on single target bosses. On the contrary WDs are pretty much the opposite with Pet build. Am tempted to try a dot build x3 with 1 pet build but those needs to be more mobile to be effective. Will see.

One of the reasons I really like crusader is that they move slower assuming you have the 2H w/shield build. It's much harder for your guys to get unsynced. If they get feared they don't run off at top speed and your guys don't get scattered all over. With WD or Wizards it's really easy for your guys to be all over the place very quickly with certain elite packs. Then it's a pain to get the synced up.

[Enoah35]

Hello again,

Going to use this thread instead of making a new one. However this time is more of in need of advice in a more technical way. Since I have moved from 3 to 4 boxing, i noticed more graphical lag and performance issues. I have read the FAQ and did monitor what was causing this and apparently its the CPU that reaches 100% on heavy fights, especially on RoS specific areas and some Rifts. Hardware spec is like this:

CPU : Intel Core I5-3570K 3.4Ghz
MEMORY: Corsair Vengeance PC3-12800 DDR3 1600 16GB 2x8GB
HDD : OCZ Vector SATA3 2.5 SSD 256GB + WD Caviar Green 2TB SATA3 64MB
GFX CARD : Radeon HD 7970 Ghz Version. (Catalyst 14.4)
OS : Windows 7 64bit

I am using 2 monitors. Configured as multimonitor swapping method, main window on the main screen, the other 3 + another Dxnothing window on the 2nd monitor. I configured the cores like this.

Main window : Core 1&2
2nd account: Core 2&3
3rd account: Core 3&4
4th account: Core 4
DxNothing: Core 1

Ingame configuration its set on lowest setting on all games. Usually with this configuration the CPU usage goes from 50%-80% on normal areas. But on heavy mob density it shoots up till 95-98%. Worst areas are pandemonium fortress that goes to 100%. The only thing I can probably improve is to get rid of the DxNothing window that has 3 VideoFX (the minimap of other accounts) and rely on checking the map after clearing one area, or disable sound on other accounts.

Any other tips you can give me I appretiate it.

[Ishar]

I doubt that dxnothing has a huge impact. Pandemonium lags me too but not with my cpu. I have a bit more head room in that component than you though the same gpu.

You can try dxnothing but I would look into seeing if any background processes were eating cycles first.

Another thing to try is doing a overlapping Windows on main monitor and using viewers on a dxnothing on the second monitor.

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[Enoah35]

I doubt that dxnothing has a huge impact. Pandemonium lags me too but not with my cpu. I have a bit more head room in that component than you though the same gpu.

You can try dxnothing but I would look into seeing if any background processes were eating cycles first.

Another thing to try is doing a overlapping Windows on main monitor and using viewers on a dxnothing on the second monitor.

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Not intending to bump but this eased up the CPU usage by a lot. Pandemonium fortress still lags the hell out but the CPU load for the rest went down by about 5-10%. Thanks a lot.

[Ishar]

NP. And reporting positive results is not bumping. Other people might have similar questions.

Another trick with viewers is you can create and destroy them with isboxer hotkeys. So you can layer them over your main window and toggle them on and off via hotkeys. Or have a hot key to create the initial viewers when you load a character set. Which makes creating new character sets fast. I generally create the viewers through the gui in order to get the values to put into the hotkeys. Not to hijack the thread or anything.

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[Enoah35]

Hello,

Although with 4 wizards I have no issue, when I went to 4 WDs things became little unstable again. Most likely due to the amount of Pets I got out, and I am thinking on upgrading my CPU from what I got to a Intel Core i7-3770k 3.5 Ghz which is the highest value my motherboard can go. However I am not sure how much performance increase I will get with this upgrade. Since I believe its the CPU that is currently on the bottleneck, I don't think increasing RAM( which I already have 16 and not using everything) or Gfx Card (Which the load never goes above 60%) would help.

Would like any opinions on this change, since I read that many games does not use HT function that I7 offers and could even decrease performance on gaming ( An old article I read here http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/11...3-better-games) am not 100% sure if I should go for this or just use a 2nd PC to run 1 account and the main one running 3 accounts.

Thanks.