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  1. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shodokan View Post
    ISBoxer is NOT a bot, we all know this... but is auto-reconfiguration of buttons pressed in an order via a single button(step 1: 1, step 2:2, step 3:3 all while pressing 1) really not the least bit of the grey area we all knew it was from the beginning? I mean we have had that discussion here before no?
    Steps are no different than using Swapactionbar. I can throw all my spells/macros on slot one of every bar in game and tack /swapactionbar on and 1 is suddenly hitting a different macro every time.

    As far as the "do not advance for" thing, I'm not particularly for the ISBoxer version of it, but you can still duplicate a version of it using armor slots via the ingame macros or by using nulled castsequences with a reset conditional that you call in another macro further down your sequences such as -

    Macro 1

    Code:
    /castsequence reset=target Corruption, nil
    /swapactionbar 1 2
    Macro 2 {or 8 or whatever}

    Code:
    /target pet
    /targetlasttarget
    /cast Shadow Bolt
    /swapactionbar 1 2
    Easy-peesey.

    Having used these setups on solo toons that I didn't want to set up a HKN script for, the only difference is it's way easier and more elegant to do it externally, especially with multiple toons. All things considered, I don't find those actions grey at all since they are functionally identical to actions I can take with the ingame tools.

    People get caught up in banwaves and people get it cleared on appeal. Some people also assume that multiboxing is a get out of jail free card for breaking other rules, but they never want to admit that.

    You yourself claim that you've been contacted recently by GMs after you've been reported all week, so I'm far more of the mind that a ban wave was in the works and GMs trying to rush through confirming or clearing the who-knows-how-many reported and/or flagged as hacking/botting accounts {which we all know is what multiboxing gets reported as} and slack-assed the check so they could move on to the next ticket.

    It's not "people got banned for boxing" it's boxers getting caught up in a banwave. That doesn't instantly equate to us doing anything that is automatically flagged, it could just be manual reports and lazy or uninformed GMs, like it usually is.
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    Reconfiguring keys has everything configured in advance.
    And every action taken is a direct result of an input you give that occurs at exactly the same time as the output.

    The program (IS Boxer) is not making any decisions for you.
    Nor is it doing anything that you have not directly triggered (via your input) at the time of the IS Boxer output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
    Reconfiguring keys has everything configured in advance.
    And every action taken is a direct result of an input you give that occurs at exactly the same time as the output.

    The program (IS Boxer) is not making any decisions for you.
    Nor is it doing anything that you have not directly triggered (via your input) at the time of the IS Boxer output.
    Regardless of it is only doing things capable in game through macros/addons it is still an external program preforming those actions. Yes it makes no decisions for you, it just does thing in a set order just like some macros are capable of. It does not edit memory, it does not read memory... there are no if/then statements. Its different, It is just POSSIBLE that something it does set off a flag for commonality not that it specifically aids in doing things not possible through other means.

    But as stated by others, it wasn't ISBoxer that seems to be the culprit rather other external programs like Tim's and Keyclone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shodokan View Post
    Regardless of it is only doing things capable in game through macros/addons it is still an external program preforming those actions. Yes it makes no decisions for you, it just does thing in a set order just like some macros are capable of. It does not edit memory, it does not read memory... there are no if/then statements. Its different, It is just POSSIBLE that something it does set off a flag for commonality not that it specifically aids in doing things not possible through other means.

    But as stated by others, it wasn't ISBoxer that seems to be the culprit rather other external programs like Tim's and Keyclone.
    Everyone's in agreement that, from an external viewpoint and to the untrained eye, multiboxing can easily look like botting of some sort; but I think people jumped on what you were saying at the start because you were comparing a small portion of the bot to multiboxing software, while at the same time, seemingly ignoring the portion of it that makes it completely against the rules of the game and would cause a ban.

    Have players (solo or multiboxing) been mistakenly banned or suspended in the past? Yes.
    Have all wrongful bans or suspensions been overturned once petitioned? To my knowledge, yes.

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    I took a day break from wow and come back to a ton of whispers asking if i got banned. . . Lol, i guess Prepared got jelly of us other boxers on Darkspear and he didnt see us on for a day so he was telling all his fanboys on his stream we all got banned for "Botting". He is comprised of so much fail. And nope, some people just have a real life Prepared. . . I dont play every day, thank god.

    Just felt like sharing that story haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisahealz View Post
    I took a day break from wow and come back to a ton of whispers asking if i got banned. . . Lol, i guess Prepared got jelly of us other boxers on Darkspear and he didnt see us on for a day so he was telling all his fanboys on his stream we all got banned for "Botting". He is comprised of so much fail. And nope, some people just have a real life Prepared. . . I dont play every day, thank god.

    Just felt like sharing that story haha.
    By the looks of your posts it seems like the guy has quite an influence on you, no?
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    Invis you moved off KJ?! Whats so special about Darkspear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenga View Post
    By the looks of your posts it seems like the guy has quite an influence on you, no?
    Nah the scourge of multiboxing has no influence over anyone. He tries to assert influence by making wild accusations and lying on his stream to hundreds of viewers, has spent hours and hours and hours of his stream time sitting in org talking about alliance boxers and defaming them, checking their armories and doing /who nonstop. If anything the ally boxers influence him... if you listen to the stream just one night... it's pure envy, to the point of obsession.

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    this has gone far off topic!.


    Back on topic 2 of my friends got there accounts back.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ebony View Post
    Back on topic 2 of my friends got there accounts back.
    After appealing the ban or after sitting their 72h suspension?
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