3s vs 5s

[MadMilitia]

So as the thread title goes, I've been thinking this over all night. I can resurrect my 5s or I can stick to my 3s. My head is telling me to stick with my 3s as my 5s would be limited to doing old PvE content and even then my 3s can do that too.

Weighing the pros and cons of both, what do you think is better?


Price - 3s. Obviously this is a concern. If 3s is just about as good as 5s, 30 bucks less a month is worth considering.
Mount - 3s. There are no 5 man mounts yet.
Scenarios - 3s. There are no 5 man scenarios that I know of.
Arena - 5s. This probably favors multiboxing. 3s is a very difficult bracket to do anything with in arena.
wPvP - 5s. Numbers. Can't really say more than that. But three very well played characters are going to beat five poorly played characters.
Dungeons - 5s. I wouldn't have to bring two randoms. This is a huge plus. I 5 boxed all the end time heroics in Cataclysm with success. But this could be a boon too if I had reliable good players. So 5s is guaranteed where 3s is a bit more luck.
Raiding - 3s. Honest opinion here. The less I'm boxing in a raid the better it is. FPS is better, I'm not looking much like an asshole boxing three and I do it very well. Just fewer variables to process here.
Old Content - 5s. Some of them still need a heavy dose of 5s DPS. Everywhere else, 3s is better.
Gearing - 3s. This isn't even debatable.
BGs - 3s. Mammoth mount removes the need for follow pretty much. I've also done 3s a longer time than 5s and like raiding, 3s brings far fewer variables in the controlled environment.


Of course all of this is just my opinion and I guess it depends on what you do most.

[Kruschpakx4]

as for oldsql pve/scenarios/wpvp/bgs you're doing fine with 3, not sure how much you want to do in 5s but if its just for capping points, then believe me, do 2v2 (even if you got a five man team)

a 5 team can be pretty fun though, you could actually go for challange modes which requires quite some preperation and planning

[ebony]

So as the thread title goes, I've been thinking this over all night. I can resurrect my 5s or I can stick to my 3s. My head is telling me to stick with my 3s as my 5s would be limited to doing old PvE content and even then my 3s can do that too.

Weighing the pros and cons of both, what do you think is better?


Price - 3s. Obviously this is a concern. If 3s is just about as good as 5s, 30 bucks less a month is worth considering.
+1

Mount - 3s. There are no 5 man mounts yet.
Not that much of a big deal

Scenarios - 3s. There are no 5 man scenarios that I know of.
To be fair i don't like that much.

Arena - 5s. This probably favors multiboxing. 3s is a very difficult bracket to do anything with in arena.
2's work well with most classes (and a bit of luck) 3's can work with the right setup if your not going for rating now arena is a bit more puggble then before


wPvP - 5s. Numbers. Can't really say more than that. But three very well played characters are going to beat five poorly played characters.
from playing five and 3 and 4 five can help a lot here!

Dungeons - 5s. I wouldn't have to bring two randoms. This is a huge plus. I 5 boxed all the end time heroics in Cataclysm with success. But this could be a boon too if I had reliable good players. So 5s is guaranteed where 3s is a bit more luck.

hc dungeons atm are very easy. i would say as easy as wotlk. where 5 dps can do them fine.


Raiding - 3s. Honest opinion here. The less I'm boxing in a raid the better it is. FPS is better, I'm not looking much like an asshole boxing three and I do it very well. Just fewer variables to process here.

am with you with this. though five can be ok if not it does not take long to take 2 groups in.

Old Content - 5s. Some of them still need a heavy dose of 5s DPS. Everywhere else, 3s is better.

might be a bit harder with 3 but jsut might take a bit more time to work out the fights.

Gearing - 3s. This isn't even debatable.
goes down to what gear.

BGs - 3s. Mammoth mount removes the need for follow pretty much. I've also done 3s a longer time than 5s and like i

i find a way you don't need to use that mount anymore. to get round follow. i can do five in bg's easy with the right class. but three can be better sometimes as your keeping a low pofile

raiding, 3s brings far fewer variables in the controlled environment.
three is easy.

Of course all of this is just my opinion and I guess it depends on what you do most.

i played both 3/4/5 i like five better to be fair now.

[Fat Tire]

I would stick with 3 unless you really enjoy 5v5 or heroic 5 mans. Rewards are going away for 5v5 in WoD as trial of the gladiator is 3v3/RBG only so 5v5 will be regulated to what 2v2 status is now i.e. just for capping points/grinding gear and 2v2 is so much easier atm not to mention 5s is more expensive. They are still discussing removing ladders from the current system in WoD so ladders(rating) would be 3v3/RBG only and only from totg.

Who knows how boxing 3s will play out in WoD. Right now its really tough with all the aoe cc/low defensive cds, however they have said that they want to remove some cc so that would help boxers. With the hit point pools/stats going back to BC style who knows how it will eventually play out. In 3v3 I did really well in Woltk/Cata as dk/ret/ret, but in mop I generally get my ass kicked. So I play dk/holy in 2s which is still good to cap and can be fun, but now I mostly enjoy old content/achiv hunting with my wife in mop until pvp/stat changes happen in WoD.

On the occasional days where I feel like running a few random bgs, I go in with my dk/ret/ret (mammoth mount) and I still destroy the other side. I also believe in having an alliance team and horde team to switch between, keeps things fresh.

If youre on the fence I would say try them out for a month as see.

[MadMilitia]

Thanks for the input guys.


I guess what I'm getting at is the curve involved. I've multiboxed since LDoN release in EQ so I've done this quite extensively. I can say I know how to multibox but I'm not so good at it that I play all three of my toons exceptionally well. The pinnacle of my multiboxing achievement in WoW was 5 boxing end time heroics (all of them) and basically farming them during Cataclysm. I know we'll never do it like a single player can do it but I'm determined to reduce the scope of instances to increase the expertise involved. I really like the idea of being able to do two box first to get as good as you can with that and then go for 3s.

Right now I'm just sticking to my KFC for PvE strictly as I need to rethink a lot of my setup at random intervals. 3s in Arena is a huge challenge so I'm not bothering with that. Just working on PvE gear and getting legendary quests completed on my three mains.

Right now if I go LFR on all three, the two DPS are usually top 3 and the healer is usually first. I drive from the healer almost always but am working on setups that would allow me to easily transition between the melee, the ranged dps and the healer without losing functionality. Key mapping is becoming incredibly complicated as a result. This however seems better than walking into wPvP with 5 toons to control and 5+ opponents laughably owning me. Just yesterday I encountered this and I got stomped by 7 people 550+ on my guys hovering around 510 but I did survive very well. I made sure I got off my defensives, got all my trinkets and whatnot. Just didn't get the CC that I could have gotten off. Especially on the mage and the holy paladin.

Lots to still improve on.