EvE Questions

[Sam DeathWalker]

I am kinda unhappy that after reaching some of my goals in wow I am less known now then I was when I was planning to play wow .....

Anyway I have some questions about eve.

This guy "The Wis" has like 100 to 149 accounts and all he does is "mine ice". He makes more then enough to pay for all his game time though from what I understand.

Is the fact that he dosnt pvp much is that the game requires you to ground target?

He says that isboxer will not allow more then 16 accounts per computer Is that true?

Is the lack of pvp by large boxers because there is limited advantage to multiboxing pvp or that they are just not proficient enough with isboxer to set it up right or the game macros are not sufficient or what?

A lot of articals transmute isk to $$ (make $35 an hour attacking something) but the rules seem to say that you cannot sell isk for RL monies, is that true? Is there a ligit way to make RL monies in this game?

[Morganti]

You can't mine ice anymore like the old days. Previously ice asteroids were nigh unkillable, but now they deplete (as do the fields) much faster. Ice mining is not the mecca of boxing for isk anymore. I suspect whatever you read about 100+ accounts ice mining was from the old days.

No idea on the max accounts for isboxer. Never used more than 10.

EVE PVP is not really as multiboxer friendly as other games. In fact it's an entirely different style of play and world away from wow and its clones. In many ways the advantages are evened out by the disadvantages, but there are things in the game that can be worked to a boxer's advantage (sentry drones, bombs, etc).

No, there is no way to turn ingame money (isk) into real money legally. You CAN turn ingame money into a subscription via PLEX (1 month is about 620mil as of today prices), and you can turn real money into PLEX also to give yourself an isk infusion in the game, but CCP comes down hard on anything that looks RMT'ish. The PLEX system, to me, is one of the best reasons to play EVE. You can play to make isk, turn that isk into plex, and turn that plex into 30 days of gametime. Anything you make past plex money is play money.

[Mokoi]

The reason nobody boxes this game for PvP, is that numbers count for NOTHING in this game, for what we can box. the battles in EVE are 400-5000 players, and those battles can happen at a moments notice without any warning. It's not like queueing up for a fight and then warping in.

Heres what will happen if you decide to roll around in too many characters at once. Someone will spot you, and you will never be able to see him. He will then call his friends, and his alliance, and they will drop WHATEVER they want and need to completely outgun you, no matter what.

PvP happens when ONE side screws up, and the other side can monopolize on that mistake, and crush them, or it doesnt happen because they are not sure they can win.

[RSM72]

PvP happens when ONE side screws up, and the other side can monopolize on that mistake, and crush them, or it doesnt happen because they are not sure they can win.

Pretty good explanation of EVE pvp. Coming from wow pvp you can expect to always fight a very well coordinated group of enemies if you pvp in EVE. There is virtually no random pvp groups.

[EaTCarbS]

PvP happens when ONE side screws up, and the other side can monopolize on that mistake, and crush them, or it doesnt happen because they are not sure they can win.

My alliance will often fly ships into a fight we can't win, but we end up winning the isk war ^.^ (That may be still be a win, depending who you ask). Ruptures are great ships.

@Sam: don't expect to be able to do what you do in wow here in EVE. You will be camped and destroyed relentlessly for flying 100+ subpar fleets around clueless, just like "The Wis"

http://youtu.be/Tlhlwuf4qjs

[Crionic]

As far as a maximum number of accounts running with isboxer goes, it is more limited by how much your computer(s) can handle. I've been able to launch 25 at once, but when I hit about 17 my fps slows way down. I expect that the 16 accounts that you heard about was because most pc's don't have more than 8 cores right now and usually ppl run 2 accounts per core max. You can test out your own system without having any eve accounts. Just launch them via innerspace one at a time (making sure all the resolutions are the same and graphics are set low), and see when your fps bombs. Remember that the ingame rendering will be a little bit more graphics intensive.

It's not that multiboxers are bad at eve pvp. It's that group diversity and dynamic reactions are required to be effective. Even in smaller fleets you'll have tackles, scouts, logi, dps, and maybe ECM, all doing different jobs at the same time. On top of that, eve doesn't have even half as many hotkeys or macro's available in game. If you're going to multibox eve you need to make friends with non-multiboxers, people that can help add diversity to your core group.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Clearly from these answers I doubt if I will be playing EvE.

[Crayonbox]

please play eve. make sure you let us know what youre playing , how many and where

some of us will come give you hugs and flowers and stuff
This game is just like wow. super easy and newbie friendly. come join us.

theres a goal to beat of boxers too because apparently theres wis that boxes over a 100 so you gotta beat that number too!

[Mokoi]

ALL i can imagine is his PvP videos, showing us he's the most powerful EVE boxer because he can kill a POS in High Sec faster than any other player... hahaha. entertaining to see it in my head.

But yeah, it's probably best if you don't challenge yourself with a real game with consequences. You woulodn't want to rely on skill alone and not be safe in a huge blob with no macros available to pad your playstyle with complications.

Better you stay away from this game, it's just out of your league.

But, in case you DO decide a challenge is for you, use my RAF link: https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?...4&action=buddy I love plex for free. ESPECIALLY 100 or so you would bring.. mmm...

[Sam DeathWalker]

I played EQ1 when you lost exp when you were killed. Sometimes you couldn't recover your body (fear break). Sullon Zek makes EvE look like CareBear heaven; you could play for days and get nothing done. I moved to WoW because I had won EQ1 at the time and more people played WoW, not cause it was bluebie.

And look who's talking guys who AVOID PvP unless the are sure they can win; the ultimate gankers ....

I leveled up on PvP servers is both EQ and WoW, people found me and killed me, and now I kill anyone in 3 seconds.

Clearly there is little advantage to boxing EvE; I am not going to pay for 50X accounts if I am not 50X stronger, at least in theory, then one account.

Also you seem to forget in WoW I am GM of a guild that is 1/9th the size of the 9000 members Goons; I doubt I would be playing alone.



How many times do you need to kill Wis before he runs out of isk?

Is he not mining right now? And paying for all account and making profit?