EvE Questions

[Sam DeathWalker]

By ground target I mean "Click on a specific spot with your mouse".

If what you say is true then how can the wis even exist? There is no question that he makes enough to pay for his accounts.

A single bard "speed" was able to basically stop the other teams progress completely on SZ. I doubt any corp (let alone a single player) can completely prevent another corp from progressing.

How long does it take you to recover from a loss in EvE? It seems that you are always progressing, i.e. more isk comes in then you lose.

[Mokoi]

By ground target I mean "Click on a specific spot with your mouse".

I know what you meant, I just have no clue where you assumed you needed to target like that in this game. This is a 3D simulated environment with NO flat plane to target at all. You don't ever need to "Click on a specific spot with your mouse".

If what you say is true then how can the wis even exist?

I don't know him well, but I assume because he stays in High Sec with a buttload of ships, each not worth ganking on their own, but as a fleet of many he can mine, or do other carebear crap in high-sec without attracting too much attention. He's just not doing anything interesting enough to warrant more than a few suicide ganks from people who are too busy doing interesting things.

/Guess

EDIT: I'll speak to this as well -

A single bard "speed" was able to basically stop the other teams progress completely on SZ

For one, if you are looking for a way to screw others over in a big way just by being a troll, EVE is probably the best and worst game for that. I'll leave it to you to find out for yourself why, I dont care to explain it to you. however, most corps would never put themselves in a position to be trolled like this. You probably wouldnt have the opportunity to screw anyone over like this unless you were willing to destroy a relationship you have worked hard to earn in the process. Not sure why either would be fun, or rewarding, but hey, be my guest.

I doubt any corp (let alone a single player) can completely prevent another corp from progressing.

Thats because again, you are coming from a position of ignorance, and don't understand at all the game you are talking about. I assure you, this is NOT an EQ / WOW model. If you aren't going to listen to us, and take what we say at face value, like when we tell you you stand more to lose by playing this game than any other, then please move on and talk about a different game with someone else. You are wasting our time. If this is a way for you to just re-live your "gloryhole days" in EQ1, why dont you just go back and play it, why try something more challenging?

Like I said, you are not up to the challenge, so move on.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I think if you look at this thread carefully you will see I asked questions, got good and reasonable answers up to post number 6. At post number 7 I took in the quality information and concluded that EvE was not for me.

That should have been the end of the thread.

Post 8 and 9 were basically attacks upon me, which I responded to by defending myself, and on it went (with some quality information provided by some posters).

And then we have your off topic attack on me which again leads to this response.

[MiRai]

Sam, I think you should try it out. It's another game that you can add to your multiboxing résumé.

[EaTCarbS]

Sam, I think you should try it out. It's another game that you can add to your multiboxing résumé.

+1

Eve is a very unique MMO experience that everyone should at least try. With the right ships and strategies, you can gain quite a bit of fame/infamy. 100 man Black ops Deathwalker Empire gogogogogo. Bring the goonswarm federation to its gold-trimmed knees!

[Morganti]

If you want money and infamy just roll a bunch of cloaky cyno alts and talk some bigger entity into paying you to afk cloak entire regions. You see someone ratting/mining/whatever you inform your employer who sets up a blops or titan bridge gang and you go pop cyno for them. I saw a guy do this in Provi named Replicator. Boring as hell for him I'm sure though, but it's a way to get infamous and possibly get paid.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default...licator%200001

[Mokoi]

Sam I was never attacking you, I was goading you using your past inadaquecies against you to make you want to prove me wrong and join the game and be my loot-pinyata, but I guess I failed, all you did was become indignant and presume authority over the very game you were so eager to know about in your original post.

As eloquantly stated, it's not us, it's you. Goodbye, safe travels.

[Crayonbox]

I really really want him to play eve

[moog]

I really really want him to play eve

Me too... was really hoping that the legend who "had won EQ1" would dive into Eve!
I even resubbed two accounts to get on some KMs

[Mercbeast]

If the PvP in EvE was at all interesting and or skill based the game would be amazing. Unfortunately the combat while requiring skill insofar as understanding mechanics, has such a low skill-cap that it is frustrating.

When a zerg of unskilled wonders like the Goons can be as successful in a game for as long as they have been, then that is all the evidence you need that actual in game combat performance is secondary to logistics and zerging. I can speak from a position of authority on this as my guild disbanded and broke up the Goons guild and alliance in another FFA open world full loot PvP game called Darkfall, outnumbered roughly 4000 to 150.

Everything about EvE made my mouth water, still does, except for the combat. I played seriously back when the game launched. Played with a friends Corp called Sin Corp I think. We ultimately produced the very first BS BP on the server and were allied up with MoO. Basically dominated everything for a short while before we all came to the same conclusion about the combat . It doesn't mean the game can't be fun. However as others have previously mentioned more than any other game out there it boils down to numbers. You can't be a big dick in EvE with a crew of 10 or 15 extremely elite gamers, because 30 or 40 average guys will just hot drop you and that is that.

For someone like Sam who depends soley on being the low skill zerger, that won't work, because he can get zerged by even more players who might even be even more low skill than him!

The sweet spot in EvE is probably running enough ships where you have a slight force multiplier, but not enough where you're worth an alliances effort to commit significant resources to hunting you down. Four or five is probably about tops I would guess in terms of PvP viability without dudes in Carriers waiting to drop on you with a fleet of buddies