Can we get some support maybe petition to get /follow back in wow Bg's??

[Fat Tire]

I meant my MAIN reason was to progress my team at the same time.. ie EXP and GEAR.. and i admitted that there is some guilty pleasure in one shotting players (NOT the main reason i box BGs).. that in no way contradicts my main point.

Players on a power trip is the same thing as trying to justify one shotting player in greens. I am sure you left queuing for av as soon as you hit max level and honor gear right? Please dont make me call you an idiot, I am close.

[ebony]

There is someone that does a lot of live steaming selling multiboxing, He seems to think blizzard are going to get more into "hating" us and removing core stuff from the game to keep us from doing this.


why does everyone think its so hard to get us out the game? Many of us have a lot of good accounts we had for a very long time with a lot of rare stuff. I feel blizzard are making it better for us the Stuff that's BOA is shard and are clones feel more like "alts" then clones now a days as a lot of stuff and even more getting added to be cross.


i feel if they wonted us gone we be gone, same with bg's we get banned there very few boxers its not going to be that hard to get us removed we very very easy to find.....

[heyaz]

I'm against adding /follow back to BGs. When they removed it, it instantly removed a ton of bad multiboxers flooding BGs. And bad in two ones - one, pay to win, not contributing, playing gimmick comps or running massively undergeared toons with poor setups and pissing people off more than bots; if they wanted to do batttlegrounds, they needed to put some effort into a proper setup and not just hop in and take up spots. Two - it removed the toxic type that abused the kick feature for anyone who didn't tell them how awesome their green geared quad disc priest (or whatever) comp was; even some skilled multiboxers with excellent setups and gear would abuse this and just boot anyone who looked at them the wrong way.

There were a ton of these boxers with the proliferation of software boxing and better hardware - everyone was doing it just because they could. They were no better than bots and in many cases contributed less. Battlegrounds, dungeons, and raids are not a playground for us to test things out or take up spots and troll. That negatively impacts other peoples' gameplay.

There were excellent workarounds found from day one - IWT pets and mounts; those who are still serious about doing battlegrounds are still doing them, and those who put in the time and effort to contribute, build a viable team, and so forth, would know how to use these workarounds.

You can still do BGs. This may sound brash, but if you can't figure out how to implement the workaround, you don't need to be clogging up a 10 or 15 man BG with your toons simply because you bought more accounts and feel entitled.

It's less of a problem now, but even if you were geared to the teeth, playing properly, and instagibbing other players, the other faction hated it. And in certain BGs it even caused your own faction to lose if you were tunnel visioned on just gibing players and not doing the objectives. Then both sides were pissed off. Hopefully there are few enough boxers now that this goes under the radar. I rarely BG anymore but when I do, I do the 40 mans which I am able to do with 10-15x and pretty much guarantee a win due to a turtle at our base. I'm sure the other faction is furious but at least it's better than ttrying to do a WSG or AB and not being able to cap flags or hold nodes and pissing off both factions.


I was not sure how to feel about it at first, but months later I've noticed overall it was a positive thing. Multiboxers abusing LFR and Dungeons, being toxic and not contributing is still a problem, but hopefully a lesser one. People seem to get more pissed off about PVP in general. I fear if this hadn't happened, Blizzard may've taken more drastic action against multiboxers.

[MadMilitia]

I'm against adding /follow back to BGs. When they removed it, it instantly removed a ton of bad multiboxers flooding BGs. And bad in two ones - one, pay to win, not contributing, playing gimmick comps or running massively undergeared toons with poor setups and pissing people off more than bots; if they wanted to do batttlegrounds, they needed to put some effort into a proper setup and not just hop in and take up spots. Two - it removed the toxic type that abused the kick feature for anyone who didn't tell them how awesome their green geared quad disc priest (or whatever) comp was; even some skilled multiboxers with excellent setups and gear would abuse this and just boot anyone who looked at them the wrong way.

There were a ton of these boxers with the proliferation of software boxing and better hardware - everyone was doing it just because they could. They were no better than bots and in many cases contributed less. Battlegrounds, dungeons, and raids are not a playground for us to test things out or take up spots and troll. That negatively impacts other peoples' gameplay.

There were excellent workarounds found from day one - IWT pets and mounts; those who are still serious about doing battlegrounds are still doing them, and those who put in the time and effort to contribute, build a viable team, and so forth, would know how to use these workarounds.

You can still do BGs. This may sound brash, but if you can't figure out how to implement the workaround, you don't need to be clogging up a 10 or 15 man BG with your toons simply because you bought more accounts and feel entitled.

It's less of a problem now, but even if you were geared to the teeth, playing properly, and instagibbing other players, the other faction hated it. And in certain BGs it even caused your own faction to lose if you were tunnel visioned on just gibing players and not doing the objectives. Then both sides were pissed off. Hopefully there are few enough boxers now that this goes under the radar. I rarely BG anymore but when I do, I do the 40 mans which I am able to do with 10-15x and pretty much guarantee a win due to a turtle at our base. I'm sure the other faction is furious but at least it's better than ttrying to do a WSG or AB and not being able to cap flags or hold nodes and pissing off both factions.


I was not sure how to feel about it at first, but months later I've noticed overall it was a positive thing. Multiboxers abusing LFR and Dungeons, being toxic and not contributing is still a problem, but hopefully a lesser one. People seem to get more pissed off about PVP in general. I fear if this hadn't happened, Blizzard may've taken more drastic action against multiboxers.

What?

This bit about players entering BG to test things, to troll and to gear up is nothing new. Players do that all the time. It isn't out of the ordinary for the entire AV team to have the same motives. Blaming this sort of behavior on multiboxing is absurd.

Similarily the LFR setup suffers the same problem. It is a player problem, not a multiboxing problem. The only way to fix this problem is to get rid of randoms. When rep actually matters people stop acting like dicks.

[Sam DeathWalker]

As fun as it was losing most of the AV's I was in (I would 10 box at most) due to the other side being a premade almost all the time now that its gone its no big deal. I completely destroy ally in world pvp on timeless isle so fast and easy 28 v 1 its hardly worth to brag about. I was plain stupid running 10 accounts while paying for 28 ......

[Ualaa]

Blizzard doesn't want my money, so someone else can have it.

[Sam DeathWalker]

What you should petition for is free character transfers to a pvp server. If you want to pvp then just go to the enemy capital or timeless isle and if there is balance between horde/ally there will be no shortage of pvp.

[Khatovar]

I have a lot of problems with Blizzard and the way they handle things, especially when it comes to bots, but petitions are pretty laughable. I don't know why the whole world thinks that petitions are the answer to everything.

I'm on the side of the fence that says "Did it to ourselves." Some people aren't content to practice and learn, they just want to ruin other people's day so they just add more and more accounts to buy their way to godmode. And then they go ahead and use that godmode to be as... unpleasant as possible, counting on Blizzard's vocal acceptance of multiboxing to back them up. Not just in BGs, but even outside the game. I've seen a lot of nasty, spoiled, bratty attacks in different forums where people are obviously getting off waving around "multiboxing is allowed" like some sort of Blizzard immunity that allows them to act like jackasses.

Well, this is what happens when you bite the hand that feeds you. Maybe it was all about the bots, but they certainly aren't going to stick their neck out for us if we're going to take a light-year when they gave us an inch. Unfortunately, a lot of the people that are doing it DGAF. Just like any other "loophole" they come across, they'll abuse the hell out of things as long as they can and when they can't, they find something else to exploit, or use it as justification for outright breaking the rules.

[ebony]

well we got a new wpvp zone next xpac (they nerver removed follow from tol/wg).

i really don't think they remove follow from this its what we us boxers been asking for years a 24/7 av/ioc!!! Every time av talked to a gm/cs rep about it they feel the same way as fat tire about it. I really don't think blizzard are as dum to know all boxers did 95% of the time was av-ioc why not make a zone for them players! If you want to go there have fun for 24/7 nuking players do it but not at the cost of ungeared green players in bg's. ya they be QQ from some fools but the hole point off the zone is a pvp sandbox!

This time there not making a epic fail by putting dayey quests or a raid in the middle off it. and to be fair you can never really win. (like the old school av days that went on for days)

To be fair they like our money and with a xpac. Some here and many others will be saying they leave /follow and then remove it for us to get the xpac i don't feel the same way. get your head out the box and think about the zone they are talking about. Its what we do every av-ioc weekend.

And don't forget blizz has staff that dual-box or used to dual-box am sure they got more say then what any of us here can say to them. (its called give and take)


And as for the (boxers that adds more accounts) to be god mode *cough* am sure they find a way to make that new zone a little harder for to many chars.

[Tonuss]

Instead of a petition, write them a letter or email explaining what you want and why. A long list of digital "yes" or "no" doesn't have as much impact as a well-written letter, and if they get enough of those they'll understand that there is enough interest to consider a change. If there isn't enough interest, it's just as well that they leave things as they are.

The new PVP zone in the next expansion might be a blessing for multiboxers, though I wonder if it will be a problem on those servers where there are multiple 10+ boxers who team up. Solo players may find it aggravating that even with population balancing, the group of ten to twenty people they managed to talk into forming a raid has little chance against the 30 to 80 character juggernaut that is rolling through the zone and annihilating everything in its path. On the other hand, multiboxers who aren't very good at PVP aren't taking up five slots out of ten or fifteen and making things tougher on their side because they suck or are just dumb. I always stayed out of BGs because I am just not a PVPer, but that new zone could be a way to try it out without disrupting the experience for others (aside from providing an easy five HKs at a time).