- Oondasta was 25 boxed 3 weeks agoOriginally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
- Nalak was 25 boxed 3 weeks ago
- Nalak was 5 boxed all DPS, no healers, this week.
- Immerseus was 15+10 boxed a month ago with virtually no strategy.
- An 80 man Chi-Ji raid was wiped by a 15 boxer yesterday. Inside the court.
... can you ever just post something without first stating, before you have any idea of what others are doing or have done, that you are the most powerful, best, most amazing, whatever?
Last edited by heyaz : 10-17-2013 at 12:37 PM
This fight is straight forward as long as you can stay at 40 yards out of arc nova range. I was able to position the mob about 40 yards from my dps and healing for the whole fight (I think I got hit by arc nova once).
I put my 2nd tank (DK) on the far side so that if the main tank (Pal) lost agro the mob would move away from the dps/healers. And I redid my 90 step macro to be most all 40 yard spells (pyroblast, mage bomb and smite /with glyph/) so the dps/healers could stay out of arc nova.
The rest was about positioning.
This fight in many ways is easier then Galleon, as long as it can be done at range; as there are no adds and this mobs melee is less
Enjoy: http://youtu.be/LgdqWHXU40k
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Anything prior to 5.4 means nothing.
If Nalak was not done faster then 5m37s then I am still better.
Provide link to the Oondasta please, that’s sounds like something.
Wiping people while they are engaging a mob is kinda hard to duplicate, the only one that might beat me is the Oondasta if its 5.4.
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All of this was post 5.4. It came out what, 5-6 weeks ago?
Nalak was killed in 9 minutes by 5.
Last edited by heyaz : 10-17-2013 at 01:23 PM
Agree, but the accomplishment is if you actually reset the boss kill. You could run into Oondasta, Nalak, anything and kill a lot of people then die and the fight would keep going. It was almost never possible on Nalak, but on Oondasta you could reset the fight. First celestials reset (at about 10%) I saw yesterday.
Provide links and Ill watch them, I can't find the Oon with a google search. Yes we know Nalak was killed in 9 minutes by 5, and I killed him in 5 minutes. So far I am the fastest Nalak kill by one person ever. Just provide links where there is one person killing the mob, others don't count. Rewatching the video I hammered Nalak there was nothing close about that fight, he could have had 10X the HP and still lost. If someone else has done something of note I will try and do it also, from the Nalak video I have lots of spare power.
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Agreed. This is getting really annoying. In order to be the bestest most amazingest you really have to do something which other players of the game find impressive or at least interesting. Zerging world bosses that have been out for six months just isn't it. Even if you do it twice as fast as a person with 1/6th your number of toons.
I am up for the next challenge what do you suggest? Seems that the bar just gets higher and higher with no end in sight. To be the "best" the question is not "what is impressive" its "who has actually done the most". Clearly no one has done both Nalak and Galleon, and we have no link to this Oondasta kill by anyone, and its 7 hours later already. The last two in his list don't count and we know of the 3rd in his list. The first two we have no links. 25 box? By who? There is prepared, me, and there is a 25 boxer but last I looked his ilevels were not high enough, but I could be wrong. But there are not a lot of 25 boxers around. Zerging (how someone who can control two tanks, 6 healers /two classes/ and 20 dps /two classes/ is a no skill zerger now is beyond me) a world boss by one person is very very difficult judging by the number of people who have actually done it with a video in 5.4 (so far me and a warlock 5 boxer). Ill look up the 25 boxer and see if its him Hayaz is posting about. Here is the 25 boxer: http://sig.lanjelin.com/user/themipband two of his guys are 470 ilevel and I assume the rest are also, he is not taking down Oon with that crew. He does have an interesting mix of classes (dk, shaman, druid) which seem to have a TON of possible healing lol it will be good to see how it plays out when he gets higher ilevel.
Last edited by Sam DeathWalker : 10-17-2013 at 09:22 PM
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Is this just about you wanting us to congratulate you on killing something in an unimpressive and boring fashion? Do you really consider your requirements for "worlds most powerful wow player" valid and interesting? I find it self-serving and disrespectful to those in our community who have and are accomplishing worthy goals which have taken skill and ingenuity, instead of throwing money at the game until you have the most characters under your control so you can power your way through content the rest of the community and normal wow players have been killing for months with far less "power" than you potentially wield.
Sam, the reason nobody is climbing the walls to beat "your" record is that nobody considers it worthy of a record in the first place. I consider what the 5 boxing warlock did with Nalak far more impressive, powerful and worthy of praise. Don't you feel a bit ashamed that he did it with 1/6 the toons as you, and managed to do 2-4x the DPS of your best toons? Would you bow down to a 100 boxing player who completes the same thing you did in a slightly shorter time? Even if that player had terrible macros, mechanics and just threw money at the game until he beat it? Would you consider that an accomplishment of any caliber?
We have already told you what WE wont consider impressive and worthy of a title. Complete current raid content in a similar or faster time than an average PuG in LFR. When we did this, your response was "Oh, I don't need to do that, nobody else here is"
Correct, THATS what makes it impressive.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if you feel that it’s better to have fewer stronger characters (the warlocks are higher ilevel) rather than more but weaker characters that's great. If I put the time into 5 that I did into 28 my 5 would be higher ilevel then his 5.
At some point Nalak will be down to a single very high ilevel character, but not in 5.4, what will your argument be at that point?
I would give the title of most powerful to anyone who does it faster than I did with any number of characters under their control at the same time.Would you bow down to a 100 boxing player who completes the same thing you did in a slightly shorter time?
You can name some impossible task that no one can do and set that as the standard if you wish, and that would be impressive to be sure yet because no one else has done it who can claim they are the best. If I am not the best then who is? If it’s so easy then do what I did. This argument that I am throwing money at the game might be valid if you get a free level 90 with 520 ilevel when you pay for an account but that’s not the case. I leveled up and geared up my guys within the rules and that is no small feat.Complete current raid content in a similar or faster time than an average PuG in LFR
There are two types of skill, one skill is what you do when you face the mob and the other is what you did before you faced the mob. The guy with more characters did more work and showed more skill prior to the engagement, the guy with the fewer characters (assuming same ilevel) shows more skill during the engagement.
My skill is in leveling up 28 characters to 510ish ilevel. Thus I need less skill during the encounter, even though I have the most complex macros of anyone, and am able to change them from an aoe encounter (Galleon) to a single target encounter (Nalak) within a day or two. You can claim that my macros are not the best but I show my logs, and no one else does. If you think a 3 step macro is superior to a 90 step macro then keep on believing that. And let’s not forget it’s 6 times harder to write macros for six classes then it is for one class. Also if your macros are small because you are writing fall through castsequence macros to get around something that was taken out of the game that’s kind of questionable, I am sure some would argue.
Of course my defeat of Nalak looks like it took no skill during the encounter due to the fact it didn’t, because of my extremely high skill preparation prior to the encounter. Choosing only 40 yard spells to keep me out of arc nova range, choosing the right classes years ago instead of going with the “shaman are best for boxers”, and leveling up all my guys to level 28 and 510 ilevel, gearing and gemming and chanting them all and making the gold ligit to do it with.
Does it take more skill to level up 5 characters to ilevel 540 or 28 characters to ilevel 510?
I started wow in 2008 and it was not until 5.4 did I claim to be the best, that’s a very long time.
You do realize that every time you press a single key that sends a command to two accounts at the same time from that single key press, in an mmo, you are relying upon MY ingenuity given that I am the person who invented the concept in the first place ……“skill and ingenuity”.
Due to the fact it’s been a long time now with no links I can only assume that the first two of Hayaz list do not actually exist. Thus we are down to me and the 5X warlock. If you think that a guy who does something in 9 minutes is more powerful than someone who does that same in 5.6 minutes then that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Also he has not done galleon.
Last edited by Sam DeathWalker : 10-18-2013 at 04:24 AM
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