Sam DeathWalker 5.4 28 Box SOLO of Galleon

[zenga]

Well, in 5.4 I have killed, by myself while controlling 28 accounts at the same time a world boss mob: Galleon.

A player who kills a given mob faster is more powerful than a player who kills that mob slower, like a level 90 is more powerful than a level 80 because he can kill a level 85 mob faster than the level 80.

Not only have I killed a mob faster than anyone in 5.4, I am currently the only known person to have killed it by myself. This mob is available to all and a good example. Thus I am the most powerful.

Anyone who is of the opinion they are more powerful than I am is welcome to kill a spicific mob or do some pvp feat (although that would be hard to reproduce) and we can see if I can do it faster or not.

As to tactics why people feel that mages should not aoe when faced with multiple targets is beyond me but no matter if in fact I am inefficient then that should allow others to defeat the mob in the same time with fewer accounts or faster with the same or more accounts and when they do you can talk about inefficiency.

FYI, a dude killed nalak while 5-boxing (video is up on this forum). Guess that dethroned your self-proclaimed throne?

[Sam DeathWalker]

I agree that taking down Nalak with 5 is a greater accomplishment then Galleon with 28 (although I would be interested to see how he does against galleon).

I also agree that it takes more skill to do what he did.

Still I find it very hard to concede that he is more powerful overall, even though Nalak must be considered a stronger mob then Galleon, given he is a 5 boxer and I am a 28 boxer.

Sure my ilevel is like 500ish and his is 540ish but still 28 v. 5? I slaughter 5 simultaneous opponents in pvp every day, regardless of their ilevel. A group of 5 is nothing to me.

I would like him to post a world of logs of his accomplishment also for study, as I do with my accomplishments.

I am still going to claim most powerful based upon numbers but concede that he is more skillful and that his accomplishment is greater than mine.

I’ll work on beating his time on Nalak which really should not be hard for mages. It’s odd that void walkers can tank Nalak, I can’t see void walkers tanking Galleon and his adds at all. Clearly there is something easy about Nalak that escapes me which is why I would like a world of logs to study.

[Tsumi]

I agree that taking down Nalak with 5 is a greater accomplishment then Galleon with 28 (although I would be interested to see how he does against galleon).

I also agree that it takes more skill to do what he did.

Still I find it very hard to concede that he is more powerful overall, even though Nalak must be considered a stronger mob then Galleon, given he is a 5 boxer and I am a 28 boxer.

Sure my ilevel is like 500ish and his is 540ish but still 28 v. 5? I slaughter 5 simultaneous opponents in pvp every day, regardless of their ilevel. A group of 5 is nothing to me.

I would like him to post a world of logs of his accomplishment also for study, as I do with my accomplishments.

I am still going to claim most powerful based upon numbers but concede that he is more skillful and that his accomplishment is greater than mine.

I’ll work on beating his time on Nalak which really should not be hard for mages. It’s odd that void walkers can tank Nalak, I can’t see void walkers tanking Galleon and his adds at all. Clearly there is something easy about Nalak that escapes me which is why I would like a world of logs to study.

isn't Prepared running 52 characters? By your logic you can't claim, "most powerful" either if that is the case.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Prepared runs 40, 28v5 is over 5 times as many, prepared has about 1.5 as many as I do, big difference between 5X (me vs. warlock) vs. 1.5X (me vs. prepared). [...] Also prepared has not downed anything in 5.4, besides Swifty and his cronies, and although Swifty et. al. might consider it a great feat, Swifty is not Galleon or Nalak.

Mod edit - What's good for the goose is good for the gander. No personal attacks allowed here.

[Kruschpakx4]

No doubt that you or prepared are the most powerful players in wow and if someone comes over with 80 accounts but worse dps rotation than yours then he would probably still be able to kill anything faster, so at the end the more money you spend on multiboxing the more powerful you are where skill doesnt really matter as you just add on more character if someone is more powerful than you are, so the guy who has the most money wins at the end

but for sure it makes you the most powerful boxer in the 1-28 character bracket

[Khatovar]

MiRai was nice enough to clean up and post a warning on this thread the first time it went downhill. Sam is not the only one who didn't take the hint. So I'll spell it out another way -

If Sam wants to think he's Master of the Universe in a video game, what skin is it off your nose? Roll your eyes, ignore it and let it die in the mysterious depths of Page 2 Obscurity so I don't have to keep coming back here and wondering what I have to clean up now. You're not going to humble Sam, you're not going to find an irrefutable argument, you're not going to bait him in to doing something to get himself banned.

Go do something really awesome and bring it back here so we can have a 20 page thread on how awesome that was, and where I don't have to wince every time I see a new post in it. Ok? Ok.

Have some cookies.

[zenga]

I agree that taking down Nalak with 5 is a greater accomplishment then Galleon with 28 (although I would be interested to see how he does against galleon).

And that is the whole point: it's pointless to compare accomplishments and make most/best/greatest claims based on that. Because the context is totally different every time. The boss mechanics are different, the ilvl is different, the group comp is different. Say tomorrow someone starts to box 28 affliction lock, and another one 28 ele shamans. Are you gonna split up the 'title' then into 'most powerful aoe boxer', 'most poweful dot boxer' and 'most poweful single target boxer'?

This community has always been very encouraging to post and share videos of accomplishments, from the smallest to the most impressive ones. But to my humble opinion, the 'my achievement is bigger than yours because I run more toons' ones made people post less videos (also has to do of course with just less people playing the game).

Noticing the difference between the nalak thread and this one? The nalak dude just posted a vid: 'hey guys i like to share my latest kill'. Your thread could've been easily the same, but it's full of provocations and contradictions. Really there is no point whatsoever to claim to be the best or most powerful.

[Kicksome]

I enjoyed watching the video, and I feel like it would be so much better if you could do a voice over to explain what's going on or just spout off comments on the team or fight, or simply rant. Like "Hi it's Sam DeathWalker here, and this is a world first etc...".

[Sam DeathWalker]

I enjoyed watching the video, and I feel like it would be so much better if you could do a voice over to explain what's going on or just spout off comments on the team or fight, or simply rant. Like "Hi it's Sam DeathWalker here, and this is a world first etc...".

I didn't want to put in music cause of copyright stuff but ya you are right I notice when I watch videos of others there is so much going on that its easy to get lost, even moreso when others are using UI that has addons yours does not have. Plus I reduce mine from 7.5 fps (fraps minimum) to 5 fps so things go faster then normal (to save bandwidth), making it even more confusing. Let me see if I can set up something for voice over as I think you are right.

[MiRai]

Say tomorrow someone starts to box 28 affliction lock, and another one 28 ele shamans. Are you gonna split up the 'title' then into 'most powerful aoe boxer', 'most poweful dot boxer' and 'most poweful single target boxer'?

Right here is where I lost it...

Plus I reduce mine from 7.5 fps (fraps minimum) to 5 fps so things go faster then normal (to save bandwidth), making it even more confusing.

I read this and I didn't believe it, so I actually bothered to watch a few seconds of the video. Sure enough, Sam Deathwalker records his videos at < 10 FPS because stop motion video is making a come back. Sam, you are knockin' down the achievements and 'world firsts' in this thread left and right.

Keep on keepin' on, Sammy. You never cease to amaze.