What Players make money from wow and how?

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya we all kinda drifted off topic, anyway any more suggestions as to how to improve the videos I post to get more people to look at them? Is music or commentary absolutely necessary?

[zenga]

... as I can do the same thing 'playing' one toon. Spamming IWT and some pretty sophisticated in-game macros means I can quest/raid/BG while face rolling my keyboard.

With suboptimal performance. So what? You are basically comparing the macro system with botting. It's clearly stated in the ToS what is legal and what not.

When a company goes out of its way to eliminate grinding cheese, pet battle XP, follow in BGs and whatnot they are fighting against what is fun and it shows.

The only thing they do with these examples you mention is trying to avoid abuse, or fix stuff that they did not intended. If your definition of fun is only making use of things that were not intended, well ...

[Mokoi]

Sam you are just delusional if you think people are going to relate to you and watch your stream.

And yes it looks like you are spamming arcane explosion. Where in your fantastic macro setup does it warrant using that spell at all. You have so many characters, any single-target spell is more effective.

[MadMilitia]

The only thing they do with these examples you mention is trying to avoid abuse, or fix stuff that they did not intended. If your definition of fun is only making use of things that were not intended, well ...

This is childish. Clearly they've allowed things that they've then reconsidered and removed.

So their intentions are at best, whimsical. They go after anything that doesn't meet their doctrine of fun. That's why they've lost 3 million subs of late.

[Chalked]

Swiftly brings in most of his cash flow from sponsors. I think he does make about 4k a month from twitch. Swiftly though brings in a certain value. He's quite energetic and a spokesperson for razer.

A multiboxer isn't someone who'd I'd imagine is someone who is relatable to sell a product. First off to multibox requires a good deal of money. More for some less for others. But if your spending 1000s on a hobby. Don't you already have a decent income? Why bother with outside sources. Maybe you want to quit a job. But game trends come and go.

Sam in your case, if we took the numbers you'd be about 4.5k a year on sub fees alone. That's about 10% of the average us income. Not saying its bad, but it raises question as to how relatable you can come off.

Not to discourage. I've looked at your site and you seem like a fun guy, that would attract people to a stream. Not videos.

There was a thread on the us forum, might of been yours. Someone said that multiboxing would be cool if it was high level arena or current content pve. So unless you got something amazing.

Lastly no offense to anyone. But boxers are paying 5x,10x or more in sub fees. There are easier routes to cash. I mean twitch itself is only pays swiftly about 70k? Not that much money in that market. That's if you get good. Otherwise then it's donations and lets be honest. If you're spending 4k+ on a video game, please don't go looking for handouts.

[Khatovar]

Sorry Sam, but watching an indistinguishable swarm of mess run around isn't fun or impressive. Adding music or commentary isn't going to help because there's nothing to see. Except your mile-high chatbox spamming "Soandso is following you!" Once you've seen 1 minute of you trying to cause Arcane Explosion Seizures, you've seen all there is to see.

[Sam DeathWalker]

There was a thread on the us forum, might of been yours. Someone said that multiboxing would be cool if it was high level arena or current content pve. So unless you got something amazing.

Would not world first one person box solo of Galleon be amazing? If I have seven guards around me and 3 enemy players of course I will use arcane explosion .... Ya I use single target all the time, especially when I can PoM pyroblast.

[Zub]

as was stated before, I think you'd make more money with one stream/video of you dancing in a loincloth (preferably with a couple babes in the background) than anything you'll ever do with wow.

Different target audiences however..

[Mokoi]

Would not world first one person box solo of Galleon be amazing? If I have seven guards around me and 3 enemy players of course I will use arcane explosion .... Ya I use single target all the time, especially when I can PoM pyroblast.

Yes, that video might be amazing, if you used tactics and advanced mechanics to pull it off, and not just brute-forse and ignorance in your current setup. Nobody will care.

What after that? One video a channel not maketh. You need a reason for people to come back, and its not going to be for your sunny disposition.

If I were you, if you want to make money on your channel, quit paying for so many accounts, and save that money and make a channel about how you quit boxing. You would get at last 1 hit on the video, and make SO much money in savings!

[Sam DeathWalker]

I think I can safely say that most world boss kills lack for tactics and advanced mechanics, and are done with brute force.

Ya high end raids require tactics to be successful and high end raiders employ such. But world boss kills because they are almost never done by a single guild and have no real leader are just everyone doing whatever they can.

Also the simple fact that Galleon and Oon are non tauntable means it’s not clear that the tank can keep agro, and many do not regardless of the tactics they employ. Without agro tanks cannot face or move the boss where they wish and a lot of tactics just are not viable as a result when the boss is targeting random raid members.

And as you know being a boxer if you can brute force the encounter then that’s only because of the months or years you spent preparing for it and leveling and gearing your guys – no small effort as we all know.

I think I clearly have to rely on the “amazing” part of this rather than anything else. I hope that solo of a world boss would be the “greatest” multiboxing achievement to date but no doubt if I do do it someone will claim that something else is greater.

So what are greatest boxing accomplishments to date: Prepared winning AV solo? Xzin high arena rating? What raid boss has been downed in Pandaria?