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    Multiboxologist MiRai's Avatar
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    Are you two talking about this?

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    I did look at that one but didn't think it that was it but I could be wrong.

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    Has anyone successfully gotten their money back? There are mbers on the rift forum threatening to cancel and try to get refunds on subs but I see no evidence they've succeeded.

    Personally the only money I've ever spent is on my first box (when I played it solo), and I don't pvp because of their moronic warfront design (in what world is starting the battle with groups of five and then slowly trickling up to full strength a fun idea?).

    Reading the thread just makes me more and more sour on what is obviously a community of assholes. Which we knew already but still it makes me ick at them.

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    lets all combine forces on Seastone Defiant and kill every last m****r F*****g one of them.

    err might have to wait for me to get to 60 first

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiRai View Post
    Are you two talking about this?
    No, it specifically mentioned PVP and was a quote from a developer - of course, I may be remembering it wrongly.

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    Just for the record I read that they turned /follow back on last night but I cant check it at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSM72 View Post
    Just for the record I read that they turned /follow back on last night but I cant check it at the moment.
    I played a round of CQ last night, /follow was working
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    Hey all,

    Apologies for any confusion that arose over the weekend - it appears that we need to do some additional work to ensure that auto-follow remains disabled on characters.

    It has been re-disabled this morning, but you may have noticed it working starting some point Saturday or Sunday - that was not intentional.

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    Apparently it was a mistake when they turned it back on, sorta why I'm done with the game this has been handled really bad by Trion.

    They said they were doing a test to see how removing follow would effect people in WF's and CQ and they only wanted replies on how it effected you personally.

    Hey folks,

    As some of you may have noticed, we've disabled /follow in both Warfronts and Conquest for the time being. This is a toggle that is now in our remote admin tool that we can turn on and off in real time.

    I know that there are a lot of opinions on the subject of multi-boxing and it is a heated subject for some people. Please share your opinions on how this has affected your actual gameplay - but keep it clean folks.

    Bill "Daglar" Fisher
    Creative Director: RIFT



    They removed posts for a day and half and banned people who would try to argue or discuss this on that thread, after a day and half there were more people pro Boxing in Warfronts. So it looked very good for Boxing again in Warfronts.

    Then Daglar comes back to this same thread at post number 223 and says this.

    I'm sorry that I have not popped in here to give more details or engage in the discussion.

    This change is not a direct result of "just some people complaining on the forums". This issue has been discussed internally since we changed the business model - we've been afraid that the amount of multi-boxing in certain environments would increase due to the fact that there is no longer a barrier to playing the game.

    We've been watching the issue, and it has been on the rise. The number of multi-boxers out there is not astronomically high as some people claim. The number of /in game/ feedback reports on the issue has been steadily on the rise since our conversion.

    I really want to embrace as many play styles as possible for RIFT. I really do. I don't want to turn away players.

    Unfortunately certain play styles combined with specific activities (such as Warfronts), results in a sub-optimal experience for other users. When a single user has the potential - and be clear it is only ever potential - to cause another user to exit the game that simply isn't good for anyone. It isn't good for the multi-boxer, it isn't good for the person being killed by the multi-boxer, and it isn't good for the business.

    I know this decision is polarizing - taking no action was also polarizing. We cannot make everyone happy all the time though we strive to, and we make decisions that we feel are best for the game. I'm deeply sorry that this conflicts with how some of you enjoyed playing the game up until now.

    Bill "Daglar" Fisher
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    Again in a heavy modded thread that was suppose to contain no discussion, Elrar pops back in the make it a discussion instead of feed back and turn the topic to fit their agenda in my opinion.

    So it seems since the conversation was not going the way they wanted it instead of how it effects you now it became a discussion, also it seems they wanted to make sure people knew the forums had nothing to do with this even though they brought it to the forums to gather data to help with the decision.

    There were several posts about ways to make both sides happy, but in the end Trion is not going to support Boxers even though as of today it is still legal to box in their game and Warfronts.

    Just a warning before anyone invests money as I did in this game, I asked the forums a month ago if boxing was legal in Warfronts and asked for a response from a GM, I was pointed to a post from Trion that said Boxing was leagal in their game , before spending any money, several hundred dollars later I'm done with them.
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    I'm a bit confused as to why people are upset. I've been boxing for a year+ and honestly I've done BGs in both WoW and Rift. BGs were never really a fair environment for Multiboxers and Boxers always knew they drifted on a slim line with it. The company stance could change on a minutes notice and it has.

    Multiboxers make up a slim amount of their customer base. So I don't really think they're going to listen to people's demands. And all this talk of "Oh lets go boycott this by killing/camping other players until our demands are heard" is quite childish. You should be thankful that they allow multiboxing in their game. They could have just came out and given the community the middle finger and said "Ban for anyone who multiboxs" and you can't do jack because it's their policy. So why add fuel to the fire?

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