[Enhancement Shamans] Preperation for 5v5, macros, talent build and other partly useful stuff

[candlebox]

To early to tell still, they always come through in the end....oh wait this is Activision Blizzard now.

[Kruschpakx4]

Enhance set bonus change (2p): if you use flametongue on your offhand, you retain the 50% slow from frostbrand (though lose the lava lash pvp buff)

its the 4p bonus and thats actually huge if you play with elemental blast, its not a lava lash nerf because flametongue already increases lava lash damage by 40% so the damage will stay the same, but overall dps will increase since flametongue proccs on every hit unlike frostbrand. Like I said playing with elemental blast will become better than primal elementalist because unleash flame increases the size of the next fire spell (also elemental blast) by 30% so quadrupled you can easily burst 170k hp (noncrit) on resilience and keep in mind with stormstrike up you got +25% crit chance on eb so this is acutally a decent dps and huge burst buff, considering extra 3500 agility/mastery/haste/crit for 8 sec afterwards

although I'm getting a bit nervous now, I fear something like a stormblast nerf or anything else because overall things look extremely good for 5.4 (aside pve stuff)

#update on pve trinkets

Patch 5.4 PvE Trinkets in PvP
Remember that this is only on the PTR at the moment and that's always been a melting pot of experiments and us trialling things for the live game. Just because you have seen this trinket on the PTR with those particular effects doesn't mean it will make it to the live game in its current form.

We're aware that those particular trinkets are really strong for PvP in their current state. Our goal hasn't changed, we want ensure that PvP gear will stay as the optimal choice for PvP and as such we're working on bringing these trinkets into line. Thank you everyone for telling us what you think about them and we hope to continue seeing your feedback on the changes shown on the PTR. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

[Shodokan]

its the 4p bonus and thats actually huge if you play with elemental blast, its not a lava lash nerf because flametongue already increases lava lash damage by 40% so the damage will stay the same, but overall dps will increase since flametongue proccs on every hit unlike frostbrand. Like I said playing with elemental blast will become better than primal elementalist because unleash flame increases the size of the next fire spell (also elemental blast) by 30% so quadrupled you can easily burst 170k hp (noncrit) on resilience and keep in mind with stormstrike up you got +25% crit chance on eb so this is acutally a decent dps and huge burst buff, considering extra 3500 agility/mastery/haste/crit for 8 sec afterwards

although I'm getting a bit nervous now, I fear something like a stormblast nerf or anything else because overall things look extremely good for 5.4 (aside pve stuff)

#update on pve trinkets

Patch 5.4 PvE Trinkets in PvP
Remember that this is only on the PTR at the moment and that's always been a melting pot of experiments and us trialling things for the live game. Just because you have seen this trinket on the PTR with those particular effects doesn't mean it will make it to the live game in its current form.

We're aware that those particular trinkets are really strong for PvP in their current state. Our goal hasn't changed, we want ensure that PvP gear will stay as the optimal choice for PvP and as such we're working on bringing these trinkets into line. Thank you everyone for telling us what you think about them and we hope to continue seeing your feedback on the changes shown on the PTR. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Took 1/2 a season for them to fix it.

Warriors also do 1M+ damage with dragon's roar with those trinkets btw and a few other abilities can skyrocket the damage as well to 800k+

theres a vid somewhere of a warrior 1 shotting 2 people in 2's with dragon's roar on PTR.

[Palee]

So wait, in world pvp, a PVE hero with those trinkets will one shot my entire team?

[Kruschpakx4]

So wait, in world pvp, a PVE hero with those trinkets will one shot my entire team?

yes, watch at 12:55



1,4M dragon roar and bladestorm dps with sweeping strikes is so retarded with those trinkets, I really hope those pve items gets fixed for pvp ... not just rated I mean ban them from pvp like legendary cloak proccs

but anyway I dont mind bladestorm/dragon roar damage without pve trinkets since chainheal will keep us alive as long as you dont get chain ccd, good that warriors cant have shockwave/bladestorm/dragon roar all together

[Palee]

I doubt they are gonna let that stuff happen even in world pvp. Warriors running around critting 600k+ with one move will cause a lot of qq, even if it's not in instanced pvp.

[Fat Tire]

I doubt they are gonna let that stuff happen even in world pvp. Warriors running around critting 600k+ with one move will cause a lot of qq, even if it's not in instanced pvp.

Holinka‏@holinka

@Thatdudecody Primarily concerned with instanced PvP. World PvP is really ganking and comes down more to number of players​

[Palee]

Ok then I guess I"m going to farm a lowbie zone all day long until I get reported a lot. ANd if Blizz asks me wtf is going on I tell them, this is my replacement of PVE trinkets, me farming level 60s is like PVE heros farming level 90s in FULL pvp gear.

[Shodokan]

Ok then I guess I"m going to farm a lowbie zone all day long until I get reported a lot. ANd if Blizz asks me wtf is going on I tell them, this is my replacement of PVE trinkets, me farming level 60s is like PVE heros farming level 90s in FULL pvp gear.

Double healer warrior will rape any comp in the game really with that shit... like WTF are they thinking.

I'm not sure if I want to abuse them... or just not touch PVP again lol.

[zenga]

Holinka‏@holinka

@Thatdudecody Primarily concerned with instanced PvP. World PvP is really ganking and comes down more to number of players​

That's actually funny to read. Prior to mop they wanted to bring back the war aspect in WoW, Now they basically say fuck the war.