I cant believe it!

[Ualaa]

If you want to box, and box battlegrounds... you can either try Owltoid's method is the Warcraft BGs...
Or you can try Rift (which might be going Free to Play), as they have wow style battlegrounds with follow working fine.

Rift is more of a resource hog, so the same system won't be as smooth as in Warcraft for the same number of accounts.
Or conversely for the same level of smoothness, you'd be using fewer accounts.
It is a newer game, with a much more advanced macro system.
You can set up an FTL system for Rift; MiRai has a great video on using FTL in basically any game.

If PvE is entirely your goal, or basically almost entirely...
Warcraft is no better or worse than it ever was.
But for basically straight PvE play, you can pursue Everquest I, Everquest II, Vanguard, and likely others... which are free to play, without the BS anti-boxer crap Blizzard has put into some aspects of their game.

[candlebox]

I think the main problem is that WoW has ran its course with us boxers. I love the game for the character control. It just fits...not fake. Proportional heights and size of ingame objects. Lots of little things that blend very well.

I am playing solo now, but when you get used to spamming IWT it is very hard. The game has turned into a horde dominant game w/ no teamwork (LFR). They are slowly working themselves into a F2P browser game like farmville. I am affraid the game we all loved died at the end of Wrath.

Grinding isnt as cool as it used to be. To many new things always coming out all the time. No point in farming out x gear when 2 months from now a whole new Ilvl comes out. I remember be one of the 12 hunters in Ony praying every week for damn set pieces. Or running the paladin mount quest with a aussie and a russian prot war and hpally.

It is still fun to box instances, but the content is old. All in what you want i suppose. Gabe runs the old raids all the time.

[Apps]

::yawn & streeeetch::
Hi all... Ualaa, Khat, Lax, Fenril. I really liked your video response on youtube Fen. I love your mic.



Good day. I had heard about this, and decided this was likely the moment to resub and dig into ISB to figure the work around. I checked real quick to see if Mosg or Mercbeast had posted a write up, and didn't immediately see one. I havent played WoW or any MMO game in quite a long time.

ISBoxer only...
Needless to say, the IWT solution seems the correct path for now. Regardless, keymaps and mapped keys can be made to include a PVP set of keymaps to initiate on BG acceptance. Using a specific Keymap set, alter every mapped key to include a command for every up stroke of a key to initiate a Control IWT from a preset Control group.

Tada. No extra key presses.

Now, this isnt without problems of its own. Any timed cast spell / ability would appear to be useless, unless mapped to a macro or some other outside variable for the keystroke. IWT can be also linked to a window swap.

Anyway, I'll keep working on it. In the mean time, I presume, I'll be doing my RaF subs in dungeons.

[Mickthathick]

I think the main problem is that WoW has ran its course with us boxers. I love the game for the character control. It just fits...not fake. Proportional heights and size of ingame objects. Lots of little things that blend very well.

I am playing solo now, but when you get used to spamming IWT it is very hard. The game has turned into a horde dominant game w/ no teamwork (LFR). They are slowly working themselves into a F2P browser game like farmville. I am affraid the game we all loved died at the end of Wrath.

Grinding isnt as cool as it used to be. To many new things always coming out all the time. No point in farming out x gear when 2 months from now a whole new Ilvl comes out. I remember be one of the 12 hunters in Ony praying every week for damn set pieces. Or running the paladin mount quest with a aussie and a russian prot war and hpally.

It is still fun to box instances, but the content is old. All in what you want i suppose. Gabe runs the old raids all the time.

I really felt like jumping into WoW on Sunday to play pokemon for a couple of hours, however as I am unsubbed/unpaid atm I sighed and logged into Steam instead.

They really really need to change their subscription model into something that appeals to those with gaming adhd like myself, who wants to be tied to 1 game these days when there is so much amazing stuff out there to play?

Surely I'm not the only one who wants this.

[daviddoran]

I always felt that the argument, that multiboxing shouldn't be allowed because it's not fun to get ganked by someone with 5 characters, is a stupid argument. One of the reasons I started boxing, is because nobody I know IRL plays wow, so when I kept getting ganked by a bunch of people, the only way I could defend myself was to multibox. Yeah, it sucks when you get overpowered, but with such a massive game, it's gonna happen whether your like it or not. Even the 40 boxers get wiped, even 100 man raids get wiped. That's the game.

I sorta miss wow, because of all the time I spent working on my characters, learning how to do things that were simple for solo players, but are challenging for boxing, etc etc. I may consider returning, but only if the BG /follow change is reversed. Until then, I'm out.

[zenga]

I always felt that the argument, that multiboxing shouldn't be allowed because it's not fun to get ganked by someone with 5 characters, is a stupid argument. One of the reasons I started boxing, is because nobody I know IRL plays wow, so when I kept getting ganked by a bunch of people, the only way I could defend myself was to multibox. Yeah, it sucks when you get overpowered, but with such a massive game, it's gonna happen whether your like it or not. Even the 40 boxers get wiped, even 100 man raids get wiped. That's the game.

The argument resolves most often around multiboxing random battlegrounds, not about world pvp or rated pvp. So the argument that you have no irl friends playing is irrelevant (as if everyone who does random bgs plays with rl friends ...).

[valkry]

this is what i got told today!

If we hated multiboxers so much then why after a week did we hot fix (that needed a client side patch) to being back arena follow. (you always been able to play like this)

If we wonted you out of the game like your saying then we could of removed follow full stop and we would on earth bring follow so fast for arena so fast? or did we all forget about that?

i did go on to say ya the prob is getting gear for arena he said:

And we not said its not coming back its a open subject that a lot of the team feel stongey about (as there is blizzard staff/Mvp's that do it). Its about having it back in a way where its not going make players feel like there out numbed by one player. But it takes time. and we still working on stoping players going AFK with follow that is not something we want.

There is already a system like this in place. It's provided by the Government and is often free. Once people finish high school/college they generally stop being so fucking stupid.

[thefunk]

There is already a system like this in place. It's provided by the Government and is often free. Once people finish high school/college they generally stop being so fucking stupid.

Well, you could put an age restriction on the game so that anyone below the age of 18 is viewed by everyone else as an imp and any messages are automatically routed through spell/grammar check before being posted.