Use of "offensive" language on the forum

[thefunk]

Hang on, something doesn't make sense to me

Someone used a derogatory term in a thread, Someone else requested we don't use it on this forum. You then start this thread to have a discussion where people are discussing moral values, and now you're taking one of these comments personally.

The real question here is this. Will you please refrain from using the word rape on these forums. If yes, thank you very much we all move on. If no, why not?

[Wokomehee]

You dont need to be very god at english to associate the word rape, with... well, rape. As a female gamer, i dont like that word used in gaming terms. And just so you guys knows, rape is something women have to deal with every day. Cant walk home alone, cant join everything we want, we are scared at times etc. And if you dont get raped yourself, some of your friends or family does. You guys probably dont think of this things when seeing or hearing that word. We are a bunch of women in here (/hello girls), you can count on several of us have horrible memories associated with that word. Just my thoughts...

[Owltoid]

Hang on, something doesn't make sense to me

Someone used a derogatory term in a thread, Someone else requested we don't use it on this forum. You then start this thread to have a discussion where people are discussing moral values, and now you're taking one of these comments personally.

The real question here is this. Will you please refrain from using the word rape on these forums. If yes, thank you very much we all move on. If no, why not?

The word rape is used throughout the gaming community. Just like "get shit on", it's not referring to the actual act. I'm pretty sure peeps know enough to not take things literally.

This thread was started so we could at least get the discussion in a place where it's not disrupting threads.

What other words would you liked banned? The list could get pretty long.

[thefunk]

You misunderstand. There is no "banning" requested here, this isn't an attack on "freedom" or civil rights etc... . Merely a request for respect and manners within one of the best communities around.

[Owltoid]

You misunderstand. There is no "banning" requested here, this isn't an attack on "freedom" or civil rights etc... . Merely a request for respect and manners within one of the best communities around.

I assume your respect and courtesy extend to not having other users derail threads by complaining, in all caps, that others used the word "rape" when discussing killing an opponent?

[Chivalrous]

I assume your respect and courtesy extend to not having other users derail threads by complaining, in all caps, that others used the word "rape" when discussing killing an opponent?

You're a higher primate, you are blessed with the ability to reason and logic--therefore, why would you continue using a word that is documented to be able upset victims of sexual violence? To use that word knowing this is to show a blatant disregard to another's welfare and serves nobody, and makes you look like a juvenile.


Think about why gamers started using the word to define killing someone?


A) they don't want to die
B) they are killed anyway against their will
C) they were unable to change this outcome, they were made powerless before their opponent, they fought but were defeated.
D) they respawn and move on with life.
E) on vent or in chat some kid says "I fucking raped that noob!" And everyone agrees and laughs.


--he didn't literally rape him, but it has things in common with real rape. Lets see...


A) they don't want sex
B) they are made to have it against their will
C) they were unable to change this outcome, they were powerless before their opponent, they fought but were defeated.
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D) They are scarred paycologically and will suffer to suppress/overcome this crime.
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E) on vent or in chat some kid says "I fucking raped that noob!" And now, the victim HAS to remember a real world pain in a game that they play for fun and escapism.


so screw kids that use the word, it isn't funny, it isn't right, it never will be regardless of whether it is or isn't part of the gaming vernacular. If you use it knowing the effect it can have on a victim then you are not an evolved human, you are a monkey.

[Chivalrous]

It doesn't make you weaker to not use the word, it makes you stronger. It is strange our society thinks its the opposite.

and if the word isn't used threads aren't derailed. Nobody is hurt.

[Owltoid]

You're a higher primate

You offended my creationist views

makes you look like a juvenile.

You hurt my feelings with name calling.

E) on vent or in chat some kid says "I fucking raped that noob!" And now, the victim HAS to remember a real world pain in a game that they play for fun and escapism.

The victim can choose to not associate with those people, through not playing with them or putting them on ignore in areas like these forums.

so screw kids

You just brought up the memory of some people being raped as kids - you just used a different phrase than rape. Who is the insensitive guy now, Champ?

you are not an evolved human, you are a monkey.

Once again, you offended my creationist views.

...sure does seem difficult to not offend anyone, even for the self-righteous.

[Chivalrous]

You're right that people are always going to be offended, that is inevitable--but screw is a euphemism for fuck, which is not the same as rape. It does not trigger the same emotional response in a victim of sexual violence that the word rape does. You can't eliminate every word, but you can try your damnedest to not use certain ones if they hurt people.

As to ignoring ppl that say it--oft times the damage us already done, it's a trigger word. You can't ignore a gunman if they point a gun and pull the trigger, it's the same concept. I dealt with a young girl who was raped by 3 school boys a few years ago and she was fragile as hell, you think if she's in a raid and someone says rape she wouldn't immidietly think of the events they occurred that dark night? She might not say anything, she might tough it out...

but wouldn't it be better if the trigger hadn't been pulled?

As for self righteous...

self-right·eous (slfrchs)
adj.
1. Piously sure of one's own righteousness; moralistic.
2. Exhibiting pious self-assurance: self-righteous remarks.

probably so, I'm not pious--I'm an atheist, but I will vouch for my morals. I try to make the world around me better. I defend whoever I can, and I am not ashamed of it. You and anyone else can call me names for it, but if you don't stand for what you believe in you will fall.

[Owltoid]

You're right that people are always going to be offended, that is inevitable--but screw is a euphemism for fuck, which is not the same as rape. It does not trigger the same emotional response in a victim of sexual violence that the word rape does. You can't eliminate every word, but you can try your damnedest to not use certain ones if they hurt people.

So "screw kids" = "fuck kids" and you still don't see the irony? Ok.