Follow In Battlegrounds Broken After 5.2

[Ualaa]

Well this whole situation is getting better and better for me;

It appears that preparded has left:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...929775?page=43

I don't see how Prepared quitting is a big thing in your favor.

The two of you are on a sinking ship... he gets into a lifeboat and survives.
Now you're on the ship... do you go down with it, or take your own lifeboat?

If you enjoy the PvE aspects of the game, you still have access to that style of play.
If you enjoy the PvP aspects, you're not going to be that effective in battlegrounds so honor and conquest gear is going to be slower and more difficult; 10 individuals, each with 150-200% of the power (or your independent toons) and the all important independent action... are going to farm you in almost every encounter.

There are a lot of games out there, that still have boxable PvP.
There are even more, that haven't had the company instigate strong anti-boxer tactics... and especially not the shady tactic of offering a boxer friendly account sale, immediately before revoking a feature boxers require to enjoy the game...

[Sam DeathWalker]

I don't see how Prepared quitting is a big thing in your favor.

The two of you are on a sinking ship... he gets into a lifeboat and survives.
Now you're on the ship... do you go down with it, or take your own lifeboat?

If you enjoy the PvE aspects of the game, you still have access to that style of play.
If you enjoy the PvP aspects, you're not going to be that effective in battlegrounds so honor and conquest gear is going to be slower and more difficult; 10 individuals, each with 150-200% of the power (or your independent toons) and the all important independent action... are going to farm you in almost every encounter.

There are a lot of games out there, that still have boxable PvP.
There are even more, that haven't had the company instigate strong anti-boxer tactics... and especially not the shady tactic of offering a boxer friendly account sale, immediately before revoking a feature boxers require to enjoy the game...

I really doubt the sale and /follow are related, again there is nothing on the face of it that makes their explanation inplasable or any reason to expect that more anti boxing steps will be taken.

Two world boss mobs drop hi end pvp gear.
Its WAY FASTER to gear up doing RATED BGS and taking the default wins for gear then grinding AV for honor with /follow
Basic PvP gear is available through trade skills.

10 individuals, each with 150-200% of the power (or your independent toons) and the all important independent action... are going to farm you in almost every encounter.

Ya for now they can, like I am afraid of a challenge, I am from Sullon Zek. Let them farm me, I grow stronger every day.

Also we dont know the future, maybe they reverse, maybe not. Guys with DK's have found their play in AV not disrupted using mouse click move and IWT on oppenets.

I plan to hearth and set up my guys one at a time, in a better posisition then I did with follow, I can control one guy at a time perfectly so ....

We will see. Also there is more to the game for me I have 700K in gold and am GM of a 950 member guild, there is LOT to do in WoW besides pvp for honor.

And how can you not find world pvp? Just march to the ally equivilent of two moons and I can assure you 100percent you will find pvp. And there WILL be world pvp around the world bosses, they drop to good of loot to be ignored by anyone.


Arrg is av call to arms and I am wasting time posting .... .

[Ualaa]

If you find what you're doing in the game to be enjoyable, more power to you.
That is afterall, the ultimate litmus test.

[Fat Tire]

We are getting off topic....No one is trying to belittle any of your accomplishments in wow. I was just stating that confidence has humility embodied within it.

I am in the same boat, if follow doesn't come back to arenas I am done with boxing. I would be done entirely buy my wife plays so I will still have a solo account.


I would rather talk about the many boxers who I feel brought upon this change or allowed this change easier for blizzard to make.

[heyaz]

You should come back when you're less angry. Yeah, you don't agree with or like some people. You can ignore them, no need to pick a fight. That's 2 posts now you've scolded people. Lets try to not resemble the WoW forums.

I'm not angry. The whole of all the posts both on here and the WoW forums collectively brought me to that point. There's enough nonsense on here, but it's funny that you bring up the WoW forums, which I've also been reading, and on which many of you have been posting.

And it hasn't been pretty. This community has been in general very good, but suddenly so many of you sunk to, or even beneath, the haters and morons on those forums and honestly just made yourselves (and multiboxers in general) look really pathetic.

I'd be glad to link the posts. Lot of people from these forums, very respectable, have been posting like total jerk offs right there in the general WoW community.

Go ahead and tell me it doesn't matter what you posted on there and you don't care about those people, I just hope you aren't surprised that we have almost zero respect and that the threads were full of even more hate for multiboxers and dozens of pages of praising Blizzard and that they were glad to see us go.

[drarkan]

Ok time to get back on track. I emailed support@blizzard.com with this

Hi, I am emailing to plea on behalf of multiboxers who run battlegrounds and depend on the follow command. You claim that the follow command is a usefull command for botting. Now I'm sure botters will have other intelligent means of bypassing the need to use the follow command. Whats next? Removing follow in PVE areas? I hope not. I PVE and I multibox 5 accounts.

Now you may think its no many but there are multiboxers leaving world of warcraft due to the removal of the feature because of this. I'm sure you've lost alot more accounts due to this change than those who quit from being killed in pvp by a multiboxer. Besides on a PVP server it doesn't stop people from doing world pvp anyway.


If your claim that the feature is to be removed due to botting, then give account exceptions to multiboxers then. Many players who multibox range from 2 accounts, 3 accounts, 5 accounts and very very many at 10-15 accounts. Now all those legitimate players spent hundreds of hours if not Thousands of hours on leveling, gearing, grinding, and completing countless amounts of dailies, and achievements to qualify for certain raids, battlegrounds, and arenas. This is a huge blow to a sizable portion of your player base. It is hardly a good business practace to hinder that customer base.


Before I was a multiboxer I played one account. I would join a battleground durring my leveling process of my main toon. I would follow a healer using the /follow command while I did some changes to my action bar after passing a level from questing, so I could keep up with the group.


So please revert, or allow the follow command in battlegrounds.


Thank you

Not sure if this will have any effect, however if we all just send emails like this every week or few days, perhaps they will give it back to us.

Can't hurt to try.

[Meathead]

This is really just a waste of time. Since the people who build the bot's cheats' ect will just make something new to counter the follow command.

[drarkan]

This is really just a waste of time. Since the people who build the bot's cheats' ect will just make something new to counter the follow command.

My point exactly! Botters will find a way around follow, so really removing follow will not solve the issue.

[baconeggs]

Has anyone paid attention to the work around posted on the Blizzard thread - pages 48-50 for BG's? It is still possible to multibox in BG's.
What would be cool is if Blizzard created a mod that you could purchase for your accounts that allows you to build a "zombie" type of team that allows 1 toon to "mind control" his other accounts. This would allow you to control those toons movement with your main toon. Basically, the same thing as /follow, but as an added feature you could purchase.

Botters wouldn't pay this. Even if they did, once they were caught, it would ban all of their accounts at once. MB'ers would pay it, seeing as we all spend money to do what we enjoy to do already....another $5? Sure!

** Also, to comment on the above... This is not the USA..this is the interwebs.

[ebony]

Has anyone paid attention to the work around posted on the Blizzard thread - pages 48-50 for BG's? It is still possible to multibox in BG's. I also spoke to Rob from Keyclone last night, in regards to an issue I was having with my license, and he said he has almost completed a work around built-in to Keyclone. So, it's not over yet!

What would be cool is if Blizzard created a mod that you could purchase for your accounts that allows you to build a "zombie" type of team that allows 1 toon to "mind control" his other accounts. This would allow you to control those toons movement with your main toon. Basically, the same thing as /follow, but as an added feature you could purchase.

Botters wouldn't pay this. Even if they did, once they were caught, it would ban all of their accounts at once. MB'ers would pay it, seeing as we all spend money to do what we enjoy to do already....another $5? Sure!

** Also, to comment on the above... This is not the USA..this is the interwebs.

blizzard does not support us they will not do anything extra to help us out this has always been there viewpoint on this. no extra money.

if they was to do say $10 to for follow in bg's. then raiders will start saying if i pay $10 they get two resets a week. and the fight will go on.


Blizzard are not going to spend time trying to fix it so we can use follow they know how many are boxing, but with the bot prob they got in bg's (a lot bigger then boxing) they will have to try anything to stop it. Did not help when we get picked up by there software and they have to turn it off is never going to help us.



Next patch CTM-IWT removed as bots are using this as well.