Follow In Battlegrounds Broken After 5.2

[Frenzy]

I think we got what we deserve. It has become too easy and too efficient to multi box. We pushed the limits too far. Software like isboxer allows to perform automated actions . You can spam the same button and it will trigger a different action each time. You don't even know exactly what action is gonna be done when you press your same button. Is it howling blast or obliterate? You don't need to know. Boxing like that requires no skills. It allows to do coordinate your team in a way that would be impossible for different players on vent. For instance, round Robindeath grip or mind freeze or remorless winter . Yes, we got what we deserve.

[Owltoid]

I think we got what we deserve. It has become too easy and too efficient to multi box. We pushed the limits too far. Software like isboxer allows to perform automated actions . You can spam the same button and it will trigger a different action each time. You don't even know exactly what action is gonna be done when you press your same button. Is it howling blast or obliterate? You don't need to know. Boxing like that requires no skills. It allows to do coordinate your team in a way that would be impossible for different players on vent. For instance, round Robindeath grip or mind freeze or remorless winter . Yes, we got what we deserve.

Takes no skill? Lol. Ok.

Ever think that multiboxing takes different skills than solo? Just like abilities have different synergy and efficiencies for boxers? I was in a discussion with a solo player about who has the best burst. I insisted enhance, he insisted Mage based on a Swifty video. Neither was wrong, but our definition of burst was clearly different. I was thinking from the perspective of how many GCD to kill someone using multiple toons and he was thinking of damage over a few seconds using a combo. Different viewpoints, different skillsets.

No skill? Lol. Ok again.

[zenga]

Takes no skill? Lol. Ok.

Ever think that multiboxing takes different skills than solo? Just like abilities have different synergy and efficiencies for boxers? I was in a discussion with a solo player about who has the best burst. I insisted enhance, he insisted Mage based on a Swifty video. Neither was wrong, but our definition of burst was clearly different. I was thinking from the perspective of how many GCD to kill someone using multiple toons and he was thinking of damage over a few seconds using a combo. Different viewpoints, different skillsets.

No skill? Lol. Ok again.

I've been eager to make a similar post to what frenzy wrote. For me multiboxing was about controlling multiple characters at once, something you did when you had more than enough control over one char and want that extra challenge. It was only for those who were skilled enough, and a big part was setting up your team. You had to be knowledgeable about the classes, about the macro system, be smart about your healing. Since I joined the boxing community back in the fall of 2009, I saw it getting easier and easier to start multiboxing, while the power you'd obtain only increased. The power of isboxer is incredible, ... but instant window swapping, pixel precise mouse broadcasting, the way it configures a pretty decent setup by default, the whole follow / strobing concept, the integration of jamba, ... those are one by one incredible powerful tools.

Someone who is mediocre at best at the pvp game, buys 5 accounts, gets an isboxer sub, copy/pastes a setup from db.com (including macros/isboxer/jamba config), levels 4 dks and a pally and basically gets 1 button godmode. Without knowing much about the game, his class, the macro system, ... let alone that he is in full control of his toons. There is little problem for the guy to just run around in a random bg, raping opponents one by one, still spamming the same 1 button. And all in a sudden the guy decides that it would even be cooler to have 10 toons and do the same.

A bit exaggerated ... but I saw this exact thing happening with a friend. And I didn't like it at all. He was literally unable to play his dk solo, nor could he write a macro or think for himself what ability he should use. Yet he was able to take on tons of people in a random bg without taking a scratch. And in my opinion that defeats the purpose of the game, and multiboxing in particular. I'm well aware that many will disagree, but that is why I think that removing /follow makes sense, as it brings back the skill aspect (like you prove yourself now doing bgs without follow).

Long story short: I don't think that successful pvp multiboxing should be available for everyone.

[luxlunae]

You don't even know exactly what action is gonna be done when you press your same button.

Everything that Mirai said, plus I'm going to point out that this is true of anyone using castsequence macros.

If anything blizzard has made dpsing harder by making more stuff proc based over the last two expansions.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Troll alert, but I'll bite.

Software like isboxer allows to perform automated actions .

Stopped reading right there. Obvious distortions like that completely undermine whatever else you might be trying to communicate. If you're going to accuse someone else of violations of the "spirit of the <blah>" then try to not be guilty of violations of the "spirit of honest argument." lol

[JohnGabriel]

I can do more automation with my World or Warcraft gaming mouse and Gaming Keyboard then I can with IsBoxer.

IsBoxer does not work with the auto-fire thing, but WoW does. So if I wanted to automate macros I would have to do it with WoW only, not through IsBoxer.