Follow In Battlegrounds Broken After 5.2

[Chivalrous]

well played sir,
oh and pardon me sir, you wouldnt happen to have any grey poupon would you?

LOL! I've never seem that. Very good!

[Chivalrous]

Earlier in the thread I mentioned I had a friend who botted. (Yes, I always disapproved) anyway--he got perma-banned with no warning yesterday. So, perhaps it's helping? Or could have just been his time. He has botted for quite a few years so the /follow may have had something to do with it.

EDIT: nevermind, he was gathering at the time so /follow didn't effect his ban.

[Ñightsham]

How about a "trusted" boxer account Like the trusted travelers program at some airports.

[Chivalrous]

I imagine the EU/CN/KR/RS/TW servers all have their own /follow threads going. I saw one post where a guy said there were probably less than 1k multiboxers.... Lol

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well I do my best, ya HK is not the goal but I am doing my best to help my team. The one time in like 30 games our premade showed with guys who had a plan they told me to hold the IWT choke and I did, keeping ally out of both towers (they were not in force just a few guys) and when ally had zero resources we had over 450.

The rest of the games there is absolutly no plan at all. I just follow the crowd, if they go to Galv I go to Galv if they rush, I rush, if they go to base, I go to base. Its a joke.





Anyway I think you all have WAY over reacted by closing accounts. There is not a single evidence that the explanation Blizzard gave for the change and for not annoucing the change is not true. There is nothing unreasonable about their not annoucing it to catch more bots. All this community hystaria that Blizzard is out to eliminate multiboxing from the game seems a bit of a reach, at this point.

Im going to look up how the lawsuit against the bot company is doing back in a sec. Well they are still supporting the bot for wow:

We're fixing the bot for the 'sneaky patch' that happened earlier

You guys should know by now that it takes us anywhere from 5 mins to 3 days to fix the bot for an update, and then up to a week to recode chunks of it as needed (ie: questing)

QQ less pl0x, it won't help us code faster.

That was posted today.

There are 474 people viewing the bot forum (unless they lie). There are 40ish here ..........


And one thing with you guys; some complain about the cost of transfering over to a pvp server. If you didnt sign up for a pvp server in the first place then how in the world are you going to quit over something that only effects PvP? And if you are on a pvp server, hang around the world boss's you will find pvp. Or just go towards the oppents capital ...

Its going well for Blizzard on the Lawsuit front, random quote from today on the bot forum:

A few years i am concerned with lawsuit strategy and i really dont see a successful end here for xxxx
Blizzard will involve you step by step in new arguments till you out of money.
My advice to run is create a new xxx called XZ manufactored in Singapore or anywhere outside of fckn Germany

[Khatovar]

Anyway I think you all have WAY over reacted by closing accounts. There is not a single evidence that the explanation Blizzard gave for the change and for not annoucing the change is not true. There is nothing unreasonable about their not annoucing it to catch more bots. All this community hystaria that Blizzard is out to eliminate multiboxing from the game seems a bit of a reach, at this point.

As far as I'm concerned, it's not one action, it's several recent actions. This, the OQueue thing, the automatic bans, getting booted when mass-reporting in the outside world, the "tolerated, for now" blue comment, the massive increase in bots in BGs as well as farming bots going unchecked for far too long. These are exactly the things I noted when I closed my first few accounts prior to the /follow debacle. Basically "you let bots get out of hand and your fixes aren't effective against bots, they just cripple and punnish multiboxers".

While almost none of these directly impact me as a strictly solo PvE multiboxer, it still feels like Blizzard is somehow of the mind that killing multiboxing is the obvious first step. They can easily get rid of us and score an immediate "win" in the eyes of the hissy-fit throwing general population that thinks we're just bot programs that "get away with it" because we're attended. Meanwhile the masses of the real bots that use sophisticated movement are only minimally inconvenienced, if effected at all. The masses are sated if not totally overjoyed by our tears and the belief that getting rid of us fixes everything, and they can feel good about that until the actual bots continue to rise or reappear, at which point Blizzard can go announce a mass ban of reported bots and score another win.

If Blizzard really wanted to throw a monkey wrench in the works of BG Bots, they should have looked more at a means of varying the maps randomly with objects bots can get stuck on and that real players can lead bots into getting trapped on. Rocks, fences, walls, ledges, tree groupings randomly spawned like ore nodes within the map that real players, even multiboxers using follow, can easily react to, but bots that rely on pre-determined pathing or randomly following someone can't seamlessly correct for. While it wouldn't be totally effective and lose effectiveness over time as bots adapt with more varied pathing and "stuck" responses unless Blizz has a ton of obstacle spawn variation, if we were just "collateral damage" as they claim, it would be a better band-aide than the steps they've taken recently, IMHO.

[MadMilitia]

I'm having quite a bit of fun at the moment playing my rogue in 5.2. There is something quite wicked about a 4.5 second garrote followed by two back to back eviscerates. Loving Marked for Death!

Haven't touched PvE at all though. Some dailies but got tired of that real quick. I guess this will be the extent of my WoW gaming. Just giving QQers a WTF moment.


Edit: I am thinking a rogue with cloak and dagger makes an excellent MB choice for PvP. The talent puts you right behind the opponent.

Couple that with MfD and you could have each geared toon hitting 300k damage in 3-4 GCD. Times that by 5!

[JackBurton]

I was itching to get back into the game. now.. not so much. I like PVE more than PVP. But the community will wither if not die now. I move to my current server to be with more boxers like myself.

[MiRai]

I was itching to get back into the game. now.. not so much. I like PVE more than PVP. But the community will wither if not die now.

I highly doubt that.

[EaTCarbS]

I highly doubt that.

As do I. I do see it shrinking, however.