Follow In Battlegrounds Broken After 5.2

[SoulSeekerUSA]

This is what we get when people go over board with Boxing. IE 40man boxing BGs, harassing people on the WoW forums... yes you guys did this to yourselves.. I have foreseen this for a long time now...

You are going to have that no matter what with any type of group. Look at the idiots on the forums right now that know nothing about boxing and they think they know everything and hate us for the wrong reasons.

[sethlan]

You are going to have that no matter what with any type of group. Look at the idiots on the forums right now that know nothing about boxing and they think they know everything and hate us for the wrong reasons.

Of course how many times they called us botters, they have no clue what it takes from 0 to 90. Plus on too of that to get geared enchants mounts etc...

[SoulSeekerUSA]

Alternatives to /follow

1. Use a multi-seat mount to carry your characters into battle. This will work only for up to 3 characters and out of combat and outdoors.
2. Summon Argent Squire pet on leader and have followers target it and spam 'Interact with Target' when moving around.

OH HELL NO!! That is more of a hassle then its worth.

[MiRai]

This is what we get when people go over board with Boxing. IE 40man boxing BGs, harassing people on the WoW forums... yes you guys did this to yourselves.. I have foreseen this for a long time now...

I was going to mention something about this earlier in the thread, but I figured I would wait. Now seems like a good time, though.

There has always been an ongoing discussion amongst multiboxers on this forum about how they should conduct themselves when in the presence of the general public (e.g. normal uneducated players). There are those of us who choose to take the high road and will move along quietly while letting the haters hate, and there are those of us who choose to constantly antagonize players to no end through whatever means they can because they will "play the game however they want to" regardless of who it affects.

As multiboxers, we make people angry by simply existing. This can be because they believe that multiboxing is hacking, cheating, botting, an unfair advantage, or some other weak and uneducated reason they can muster up; but whether their reasons are right or not, as per the game publisher's standards or rules, doesn't matter -- They still hate us and want to see us gone.

The hate toward us has continued to build up over the last 8 years and those who "play how they want," and purposely anger as many players as they can, have relied on Blizzard (in this case) to defend them because Blizzard has, since the game's release, said the playstyle is "accepted, but not supported"; but now, when Blizzard makes a change to the way the follow function works, multiboxers act as if they never saw this coming and are angry that their unsupported playstyle has been affected.

I would bet Blizzard is very tired of defending multiboxers in battlegrounds because of the way some of us act (or we're just plain terrible), and while I'm sure a lot of multiboxers play nice with others, if you've been around long enough you'd know that there are many who do not. Multiboxers have very few allies among 'normal' players these days and I would guess that Blizzard felt worse about affecting the small percentage of handicapped people who rely on /follow in BGs/Arena than they did about multiboxers when they made this change.

I agree that the change was abrupt and should have been in the patch notes beforehand, because I can't tell you the last time I ran into a bot that relies on follow in a BG -- Maybe during the WotLK era. I doubt this is going to be a temporary change to the way that /follow functions in battlegrounds, but if it is, do your best not to be a complete douchebag to other players whether you might think they're a windowlicker or not.

[JohnGabriel]

Well at least they had a sale so we could stock up on Battlechests to get ready for this. Oh wait.... They just wanted my money not me.

[jebnarf]

I starting using a soul-trader with IWT and it works, but i sometimes will get dc'd after spamming it a couple times. Is there something i can do to fix that? maybe leave click to move on... BTW has anyone had success using CTM with identically sized window/views?
I'm going to figure this out no matter how many people cuss me out in bgs along the way (my performance isn't as great without /follow but blizz said we can box without it just fine, right? xD)

[flux1]

Well at least they had a sale so we could stock up on Battlechests to get ready for this. Oh wait.... They just wanted my money not me.

Yeah, weather boxers "had it coming" or not, having a sale right before sneaking this change in was dirty. Even if they did overturn this, which I think they won't, I'd be hard pressed to trust them again in the future.

[aasi888]

Yeah, weather boxers "had it coming" or not, having a sale right before sneaking this change in was dirty. Even if they did overturn this, which I think they won't, I'd be hard pressed to trust them again in the future.

I agree that its dirty. Someone said he is going to sue blizzard for this. I highly doubt that he is going to do anything irl though.

[Koralon]

Eh im still going to queue for BGs, infact i think as a protest we should all queue for BGs and just dance and run around doing nothing, then they'll see just how bad of an experience it can be.

[Ualaa]

I starting using a soul-trader with IWT and it works, but i sometimes will get dc'd after spamming it a couple times. Is there something i can do to fix that? maybe leave click to move on... BTW has anyone had success using CTM with identically sized window/views?
I'm going to figure this out no matter how many people cuss me out in bgs along the way (my performance isn't as great without /follow but blizz said we can box without it just fine, right? xD)

Mouse broadcasting is not going to be reliable.

Even if you move your toons, after a lead toon, who only uses forward and backward arrow for several iterations.
IE., follow them forward, then they back up and your slaves follow... repeat quite a while.
So in theory, your toons are facing almost exactly the same direction.

Then use your formation key, to strafe a few into whatever formation...
Without changing their facing at all.

After a very short time running, they're going in different directions and you either need to follow or correct them.

I suppose you could run several toons, by broadcasting NumLock or whatever you use for auto run.
And then manually adjust the movement in each window.

Or maybe choose a modifier per toon (doesn't have to be Alt, Ctrl, Shift), which executes a mapped key on press or release.
Press = mouse broadcasting on, for one window; Release = mouse broadcasting off, for that window.
Which would let you adjust the movement of each window individually, without leaving the main window.

Still going to be a pain in the ass.





Basically, /Follow is likely gone for good, in PvP.

In the event they bring it back, I'm going to be extremely hesitant to dump cash into the game.
Who knows, maybe you buy 10x [The Next Expansion], and then they revert (remove again) follow in pvp.

I can PvE for free, in several games.

I can PvP in a few games, which haven't screwed boxing over...

Basically, I don't really feel like giving Blizzard another dollar.
They fucked us over, which is their option.
But having done so, they live with the consequences.