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  1. #1

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    Filled my own two cents about this and a suggestion on how to work with both sides.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...75?page=11#214


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    Tell me what you guys think.

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    IMO, I won't be surprised if they bring /follow back to battlegrounds in some period of weeks. As soon as the patch hit, news about /follow lit up, so it's not like they were expecting to suddenly ban a bunch of bots that they caught off guard and could now instantly detect as soon as the patch hit (even though people playing on PTR said /follow worked fine there before 5.2 went live)... And once the bots switch away from /follow, this feature removal serves no anti-botting purpose.

    Consider the LFR delay, and think to yourself about how our situation relates. They want certain types of dedicated players to get the first whack at the new gear, etc., so that the experience is not cheapened for those players. Some people are happy, some people are sad, and Blizzard can claim some sort of victory. Now extend that same idea to PVP, and here we are.

    Also consider that we know they have some automated system for suspending/banning suspect players in the battlegrounds. We know because various multiboxers were collateral damage. Well, now they still have their automated system but they can have it on, with little/no collateral damage simply because multiboxers are effectively eliminated from the BG's for the time being. I would assume that they are collecting useful data during this time, and that when/if they flip /follow back on, they will see more multiboxers' behavior patterns again and have a better idea who is a legitimate multiboxer, and who is not.

    Anyway, there's my idle speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lax View Post
    IMO, I won't be surprised if they bring /follow back to battlegrounds in some period of weeks. As soon as the patch hit, news about /follow lit up, so it's not like they were expecting to suddenly ban a bunch of bots that they caught off guard and could now instantly detect as soon as the patch hit (even though people playing on PTR said /follow worked fine there before 5.2 went live)... And once the bots switch away from /follow, this feature removal serves no anti-botting purpose.

    Consider the LFR delay, and think to yourself about how our situation relates. They want certain types of dedicated players to get the first whack at the new gear, etc., so that the experience is not cheapened for those players. Some people are happy, some people are sad, and Blizzard can claim some sort of victory. Now extend that same idea to PVP, and here we are.

    Also consider that we know they have some automated system for suspending/banning suspect players in the battlegrounds. We know because various multiboxers were collateral damage. Well, now they still have their automated system but they can have it on, with little/no collateral damage simply because multiboxers are effectively eliminated from the BG's for the time being. I would assume that they are collecting useful data during this time, and that when/if they flip /follow back on, they will see more multiboxers' behavior patterns again and have a better idea who is a legitimate multiboxer, and who is not.

    Anyway, there's my idle speculation.
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    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...775?page=6#104 - Basically saying they didn't mind it affecting "us"; though the silver lining is it might get reverted in Arenas, but BGs will still be followless.
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    I'm not quitting Battlegrounds, AV is now the best honour grind and I will use it. I just won't be able to use /follow, sucks to be my team in that BG

    EDIT: IMO, if the QQ from boxers was big before this removal, if everyone kept boxing in BGs, imagine the QQ after...
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    just what i thought, multiboxing still allowed :P i'll resub just for fun i still can do pve, world pvp, 2v2 arena and queue to bg's with my handicapped wheelchairpaintrain and make more hate than ever

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    I really hope Lax is right, hopefully they look at some of the constructive posts and emails they are receiving and change this back. I think lifting the limit on how many accounts you can have under the one Bnett account and only letting toons on that bnet account /follow would work well.

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    The question for me now really is: Is it worth it? Do I want to spent money just to annoy other players? This change and the comments from the blues clearly show that we are not welcome in BGs anymore. If I am not welcome in one part of the game, I will not limit myself to the parts where I don't bother other players (i.e. instanced content). I always had the impression that Blizz was unbiased towards multiboxers. With IWT, follow and the macro system it actually felt that this game was made to be boxed. Now they are starting to move in a direction where I don't have that feeling anymore. I will still wait for a comment from some of the big shots (like Ghostcrawler) but at the moment my addiction has been rapidly cured by that action

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    Been a good 8 years! I played vanilla to rank 13 (1% from high warlord lord Rank 14). In BC, I started Boxing 5 accounts and move up to 10. With this action I am going to cancel all 10 accounts. If they revert this change I may reconsider re-activating. If they did truly kill wow pvp with this patch. I just wanted to say thanks to all of you veterans that got us started with boxing.
    Last edited by Wavingdark : 03-07-2013 at 03:15 AM

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    Accounts Cancelled. Been playing since 2005 and MB since Wrath.
    I'll be trying Rift I guess.

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