Return of Mosg

[Owltoid]

Well, that mostly limits your viability to 5v5 arena, which isn't the most active bracket anymore and the amount of aoe cc is crazy. The shaman are inferior in other pvp settings - BGs and wpvp.... just due to poor uptime and lack of gap closers. World pvp is a pretty big deal now and 10 man BGs are viable with DKs, if you don't suck

Say what? You're telling me that shamans can't roll in BGs? Hogwash - the team is solid.

Have we seen anyone successful in RBGs yet? Othewise we all suck.

I don't know which one is better, but they're both viable. Having shaman teams say DK teams are horrible, or vice versa, is wrong.

[Shodokan]

I play both.

I see dks flat lining early vs shaman teams with the healing changes and class changes. The ability to kill whatever you want in the opener is too powerful, the choice of what to kill will make or break how high you get your rating IMO.

Dks will be strong with the changes to ring of frost but a lot of targets are hard kills initially for dks, their spread pressure is still amazing and their burst for 6 seconds is amazing if you have full uptime on the target but defensives and un-reducable CC (new aoe disarm) can easily negate dk burst. If shaman had a gap closer and were able to use elemental blast efficiently and stay on targets at the same time then they would win hands down but their mobility is pretty crappy unless you are specing purely into wind walker totem.

[heyaz]

Say what? You're telling me that shamans can't roll in BGs? Hogwash - the team is solid.

Have we seen anyone successful in RBGs yet? Othewise we all suck.

I don't know which one is better, but they're both viable. Having shaman teams say DK teams are horrible, or vice versa, is wrong.

I said inferior, in my opinion, not terrible. As in, not as good. In those settings - BGs, World PVP. Longer fights where instagibbing one target every 3 minutes isn't a game changer as it would be in 5v5 arena. I've seen them desperately chase targets around only to finally close the gap and slap around wet noodles and auto attack. DKs on the other hand grip everything in, can use their hard hitting abilities very frequently, and produce tremendous AOE pressure pretty much nonstop. They're also... dare I say this... a lot less squishy than enhancement shaman, which says a lot because Frost DKs are squishy. These are small BGs as low as 10 man, and world pvp.

Again, this has nothing to do with 5v5.

But maybe my opinion is out of place in this thread as Mosg, Shodokan, etc. seem to be talking strictly 5v5. In that case, enhance shaman. Honestly I'm not sure why 5v5 keeps coming up, with it being so dead, and going into obscurity at this point. And it seems like a lot of frustration for little more than a shot at the 1900s.. not exactly a prestigious bracket

[Shodokan]

I said inferior, in my opinion, not terrible. As in, not as good. In those settings - BGs, World PVP. Longer fights where instagibbing one target every 3 minutes isn't a game changer as it would be in 5v5 arena. I've seen them desperately chase targets around only to finally close the gap and slap around wet noodles and auto attack. DKs on the other hand grip everything in, can use their hard hitting abilities very frequently, and produce tremendous AOE pressure pretty much nonstop. They're also... dare I say this... a lot less squishy than enhancement shaman, which says a lot because Frost DKs are squishy. These are small BGs as low as 10 man, and world pvp.

Again, this has nothing to do with 5v5.

But maybe my opinion is out of place in this thread as Mosg, Shodokan, etc. seem to be talking strictly 5v5. In that case, enhance shaman. Honestly I'm not sure why 5v5 keeps coming up, with it being so dead, and going into obscurity at this point. And it seems like a lot of frustration for little more than a shot at the 1900s.. not exactly a prestigious bracket

No one has done well in RBG's for an entire expansion and certainly no one this one... so speaking to that is sorta beating a dead dog as well.

There are very few people who do world pvp from my experience and everyone knows how strong dks are for that sorta thing.

[Ellay]

I totally won a rbg last week, totally.. I'm like 1-9 at this point. Pretty sure that is baller status.

[Multibocks]

Haha I can confirm that he did win. I watched the entire thing

[Kruschpakx4]

I havent played my shaman team (and wow) since christmas but it was pretty fun in bgs/wpvp and also viable in 5v5 but with the removal of t2 rating requirements I'd suggest you to go with the dk team, once fully geared with t2 weps dks will be much more fun in pvp

[Lyonheart]

I feel like i wasted a few months of my life on my shaman team.. hope the next patch makes them better ( ele spec ). I just dinged a fury warrior..frost DK and combat rog to 90.. got them a few upgrades..no weapons yet ( they almost exalted with Klaxi so ill wait for weapons ) And my DK is doing 50k on the target dummy as a fresh 90! My damn shaman are lucky to pull 45k average, and they are geared ( 470ish ). The Fury is doing 30k right out the gate as well.. i have to tweek his macros a bit i think. Anyway.. I'm focusing on my DKs until i have a full team again, grrr!! Unless DKs get nerfed into the ground, they are a safe bet for fun+ownage.

So, OP, my vote is for DKs as well! Way easier to box then Enhance.

[pinotnoir]

If you play another boxer you can win a RBG. Otherwise it's pretty tough.

[Shodokan]

With how next season is going to work, just play both.

Personally I see geared shaman winning more arenas than dks unless you are amazing with your split CC. (which trust me isn't too easy to accomplish)