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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellay View Post
    They need ramp up time. My numbers on a lvl 85 training dummy, just 1 - no aoe targets The DK's after about 3-5 minutes pull 52-53k DPS. The shaman? Sitting at 36-38k. My rotation is down pat pretty well, this also includes not dropping stormlash totem or heroism, mainly because heroism doesn't work in arenas and that's where it counts.
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    Another concerning thing I notice when I run a recount on a training dummy, the DK's start off with massive DPS to the tune of 60-65k. The shaman? goes from 20k usually and ramps up. Taking almost 10 seconds to get to that lovely 45k dps spot and then tapering down because Ascendance wore off.

    I need that burst, and I need it on demand. The problem is this also hurts my PvE group if I switch it up. Currently I run Tanking Druid and Resto Shaman so I get the 5% crit buff from the druid and the Shaman allows Heroism and Stormlash, making fights go much easier. I'd lose that and only gain another Army of the Dead.

    All in all, it's really hard to decide, I wish - really wish Enhancement Shaman performed better. I've spent so many hours perfectly the DPS rotation and I know without a doubt it 90+% optimal which is what any boxer typically wants. I just don't think it's enough.

    It's hard to judge what is wrong without combatlogs. All I can tell you is that enhancement is in a great spot, both in pve and pvp. In pve it's generally better performing than frost dks. Definitely 2-3 months ago when all raid data was based on much lower ilvl than currently. But then again we are talking about less than 1% difference in performance. That is obviously from a single player perspective. And that is not data that I pull out of my ass, it's based on 1000s of combat logs. These are the results for all people who run normal raids, which tend to be both lower geared and less optimized players. The same results but then for heroic raids (typically better geared and more optimized players). I consider 25m less relevant since they typically have every buff, whereas a 10m raid is closer to a 5m group.

    But one thing is sure: enhancement does not have a big ramp up time, and they do have pretty sick burst, even on demand.

    I just recorded a short clip vs the training dummy, and I have very little raiding experience as enhancement (i.e. I'm far from optimizing the rotation, it's basically just an offspec I use to do dailies. but I do have a pretty good theoretical knowledge about the spec this tier). Forgot to pop wolves for the most part, was hard casting a lb with 1 stack of mealstrom, ... you get the idea. And still manage to get easily in the 120k range, without stormlash/bloodlust/raid buffs ...

    It is absolutely possible that enhance is just way harder to box than frost dks, but that shouldn't explain the results you are getting. With equal gear the enhance should always have the same and possibly more potential than the dk. So I'm afraid that you are doing something wrong.

    The best way (unless you have made up your mind that you will ditch the enhance) is to provide an armory link and a combat log.

    To upload a combat log:
    1. Go to worldoflogs.com, make an account an create a fake guild on whatever realm.
    2. In your /world of warcraft/log folder there is a txt file located called WoWCombatLog, delete that one (if you have never logged there should be no file of course) i.e. make sure you have no file there
    3. When you are ready, type in wow /combatlog and you should get a chatmessage saying something like: logging now
    4. Go nuts on the dummy or even better run a dungeon
    5. Type /combatlog in wow to turn the logging off
    6. login to worldoflogs.com and you should see a link in the upper right hand corner called 'client' (you need to have java installed for that)
    7. you then should have 3 options and you need 'open a file', but under edit/preferences you should set your combatlog location and worldoflogs login/pass if the tool doesn't ask you for it
    8 locate your combat log
    9. upload
    10. paste link here and we can start checking what the issue is to hopefully save you from rerolling
    Last edited by zenga : 02-03-2013 at 09:31 AM
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