Just bought a 7th

[Brax]

I mined out of a hacking site last night in Null (the grav sites in system had been stripped of ABC already) with 4 ventures, a procurer, and a hauler for a few hours. I'll have the alts in procurers on Monday. Near as I can tell then procurer I'm using is pulling in 480k in ore per 3 minutes, so x20 = 1 hour is about 9ish mil per hour, and some of the roids down here are worth more than that. My current plan is to have the procurers be able to tank the nullsec rats (at least long enough to get my ratter/logi to them) while I rat with a non-turret ship (amarr space...target disrupting rats suck for my abaddon, so maybe a raven) and a T1 shield logi and a Rorq boosting from our corp POS. Hauling is my biggest problem at the moment, so I may bring in one of my PI toons from lowsec on my 9th account to haul as I REALLY don't wanna move the Rorqual out of the POS except to park. I need to get the industry index of our system up so we can put some indy mods up to spawn grav sites which will be much better mining. So if I can be doing trading, PI, mining, AND ratting all at the same time = win

I used to be a hardcore miner/indy-guy 2years ago. I'd run ops of 11+ barges etc etc in nullsec. I can tell you that anything other than deep nullsec mining where you're not constantly swapping roids is a waste of time. Mission running will ALWAYS net you more for your resources unless you're doing industrial with your resources.


You need to be producing something with the ore you mine otherwise it is a complete waste of time. Again, that is unless you have some deep deep nullsec space to live out of.

General rule of thumb:
-Take one mining barge with "Average" expected skill & equipment that you plan to put on your other toons. Have him mine for one cycle. Calculate the "BEST" possible income of ore per minute, then per 10minutes, and then per hour since you know the cycle time & ore income per cycle.

This will allow you, using math, to easily scale your operation based on average income of one character mining. The "BEST" possible number will give you a "Heightmap" to know where it is POSSIBLE to go but is generally impossible since you'll end up dealing with ore transfer, asteroid deaths (causing you to change targets) etc etc. You also have to factor in how many toons you're managing at the same time which has a dramatic effect on your ability to stay efficient with mining barges past 3 toons ESPECIALLY if you're doing low-sec mining operations which generally have horrible asteroids so you'll be having a high maintenance per toon to keep them all mining.


At the end of the day if you're not doing deep nullsec stuff with an ore-sale contract to the alliance your renting/borrowing space from you won't be making anything near what missions can while multiboxing.

This is something that has always gotten under my skin in terms of EvE because running missions is blatantly superior to mining in even high-sec that there is fewer and fewer miners each month.



TLDR; Do NOT invest into mining while multiboxing in anything except deep-deep nullsec, and you should probably be producing something or have a sell contract with an alliance in the area or you're wasting your time.



ps: Unless CCP has made resources mined faster than 2yrs ago by like 3x using mining barges I highly doubt you'll be making more than 9mill per barge per hour. Meaning you'd need 10 strip mining bardges to even touch 90mill/hr.