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    Quote Originally Posted by Morganti View Post
    First off, I used to play 2 Abaddons for dps in missions (I was doing CPF, caldari missions) and had them both beam. I tried 1 pulse 1 beam and found that the BS's liked to hover outside good pulse damage range. I also recommend faction crystals, as T2 die too damn quick. If I were to go back to missions with not much isk to spend I'd do 2 Abaddons and 2 Guardians again easy. Ravens are doable (again cruise for range means less damage, but good projection) with basilisk support. If you have the cash I highly recommend Nightmares for DPS.

    Abaddons are very common in nullsec doctrines at the moment, as are navy apocs, so going lasers/amarr is never bad (for future planning). Missiles are bad for anything beyond small gang PVP, and if larger scale PVP is a potential goal for you later then skip them. The only rats that I had problems with using laser dps was I think Guristas, and just skip those.

    If you want me to tell you a path to make your life easier this is it: 2 Abaddons w. tech 2 lasers (both pulse and beam) and tech 2 tank and tech 2 drones, 2 Guardians with tech 2 tank and tech 2 drones, 1 Loki pilot (for frig killing in missions) with tech 2 everything, and a jack of all trades Noctis/Freighter/Jump Freighter/Indy guy. Upgrade your Abaddons to Nightmares when you get the isk and put T2 Tachyons on them and you will chew through level 4's like there is no tomorrow. Buffer/Resist tank everything, feed the battleships cap and armor reps and throw 1 armor rep/1 cap to each Guardian at the start and throw 1 rep from each on the Loki and you can ignore the Guardians after that on most missions (orbit them around 1 BS with an afterburner running and a buffer tank on them).
    This is actually what I wanted to do, but wanted to make sure Raven's or missiles weren't like hidden dps after resist calculations vs Abaddon's. Also, what I figure is that if I have enough hammerhead II's on the field it won't matter about having a loki. I'm using ISBoxer so drone management won't be an issue for me.

    Essentially what I plan to do is 4 Abaddon's, 2 Guardians, and a Noctis :3....though I might nix the noctis for another Guardian for immortal tanking potential (also to ensure that if one guardian gets jammed I'm not in trouble). That or switch the noctis for another Abby for more dps & drones for anti-frig support.

    I used to solo the hardest lvl 4 missions in my Maelstrom prior to leaving almost completely 8-9 months ago. It just took awhile, but I also don't want to waste too much time salvaging with a Noctis to squeeze out another 5-10mill if I could have done another mission or TWO that are each 30mill in bounties/reward if I ignored salvaging altogether .


    Lastly, do you forsee 4 Abaddons, and 3 Guardians (or 4 Abbys + 2 Guards + 1 noctis) being shunned for highest tier pve such as wormholes etc in nullsec? That is my ultimate goal is the highest end possible PvE.


    Also, are incursions no longer worth doing? I heard they got nerfed, but I'm thinking if I solo'ed incursions with my 7box i'd be able to make it worth my while (since i get paid quite a bit with 7 toons in an incursion lol).



    Thanks m8


    ps: Nightmares only seem to be usable if I use a Basilisk for shield repping. So I'll have to wait a bit longer before I use those as I can't mix and match them with Abaddons. Otherwise their DPS is weak.
    Last edited by Brax : 02-01-2013 at 09:29 AM

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