Which CPU

[Invisahealz]

i7-3970x or i7-3930k
So on my new build ive been researching the cpu's quite a bit but dont know which would be more beneficial for me
So the top of the line i7-3970x looks pretty awesome but the price tag of $1,079 is assumed to come with the best i7 chip
The 3930k is basically the same chip just underclocked abit from what i understand with a price of $569

Will i get much more out of the 3970x over the 3930k for multiboxing WoW? Is it worth the almost doubled price?
Im looking to run at least 10 wow's on each of my good computers as thats what i can run on my current setup, but i also want to be able to fraps in highquality with my new setup without any system lag or low frame rates. Right now with i7-990x, 32gb ram, gtx690 when im running 10 box and frapsing it drops framerates below 30 on big fights. I want to keep free of the lag spikes i get from performance issues.

thanks

[MiRai]

i7-3970x or i7-3930k
So on my new build ive been researching the cpu's quite a bit but dont know which would be more beneficial for me

The 3930k is basically the same chip just underclocked abit from what i understand with a price of $569

After a quick Google search of some 3970X benchmark reviews (there aren't many), I see that the games that its been tested with are either GPU limited or don't take advantage of all the cores (not that I expected anything else). I doubt there's anyone on this forum that bought the 3930K, was unimpressed with it, and then turned around and dropped $1,000 more on a 3970X to have it change their life in gaming as they know it -- So, you're in uncharted territory here.

While I'm sure there is a difference between the chips while playing games, I doubt that difference is noticeable.

So the top of the line i7-3970x looks pretty awesome but the price tag of $1,079 is assumed to come with the best i7 chip
Will i get much more out of the 3970x over the 3930k for multiboxing WoW? Is it worth the almost doubled price?

Every single Intel Extreme Edition chip for the past 4 (?) years has carried the price tag of $1,000 (usually double the price from the next choice in line), whether the chip was actually worth it or not. The price on these never drops and even when they're old and outdated the price tag will still be $1,000. Blame AMD for providing garbage competition in the CPU market.

Im looking to run at least 10 wow's on each of my good computers as thats what i can run on my current setup, but i also want to be able to fraps in highquality with my new setup without any system lag or low frame rates. Right now with i7-990x, 32gb ram, gtx690 when im running 10 box and frapsing it drops framerates below 30 on big fights. I want to keep free of the lag spikes i get from performance issues.

Unless you're running close to maxing out your CPU, then recording video is going to be limited to the write speed of your storage media, and seeing as most people record to a single HDD (which is even sometimes the same drive as their OS and/or game drive), that's where their recording bottleneck usually lies because HDDs are as slow as molasses.

How "high quality" are we talking here? I can record footage using RGB24 (~10GB/min @ 1,490Mbps) to an SSD which can't even be played back on a regular HDD because it's too demanding. Would I ever use this codec for YouTube? No.

Can you tell the difference between these two videos? Be honest!

Video 01
Video 02

[Invisahealz]

Unless you're running close to maxing out your CPU, then recording video is going to be limited to the write speed of your storage media, and seeing as most people record to a single HDD (which is even sometimes the same drive as their OS and/or game drive), that's where their recording bottleneck usually lies because HDDs are as slow as molasses.

How "high quality" are we talking here? I can record footage using RGB24 (~10GB/min @ 1,490Mbps) to an SSD which can't even be played back on a regular HDD because it's too demanding. Would I ever use this codec for YouTube? No.

Can you tell the difference between these two videos? Be honest!

Video 01
Video 02

definitely can not notice any difference in the two videos, What do you use to capture the video with? And what do you use to edit/publish the video with? I ordered http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147193 for my hard drive. Should i get a separate ssd for the video capture/editing/rendering or will one with my game / os / video capturing and whatnot be ok?

[MiRai]

definitely can not notice any difference in the two videos, What do you use to capture the video with? And what do you use to edit/publish the video with?

Both videos come from the same source, obviously, but I wanted to see how much YouTube's own codec really affected my video. The first video (Video 01) had a description but I pulled it before I linked it here:

745Mbps FRAPS file (2.45GB) encoded to 40Mbps (241MB) and then re-encoded to 10Mbps (62MB).
Using Adobe Media Encoder H.264 Custom Settings.

That video was re-encoded twice (from 745Mbps (FRAPS default) down to 10Mbps (Adobe Media Encoder)) before it was uploaded and it looks the same as the second video which was only encoded once down to 40Mbps. Hell, you might even tack on another encoding pass because YouTube re-encodes it again before it goes live on their site.

That particular video clip was recorded to a 7200RPM Western Digital Black HDD. I use 30FPS (or 29.97) for all of my YouTube stuff because anything higher than that is a waste -- Unless you want some smooth slow motion in your videos which, in that case, I can't even tell you how YouTube handles that. Throughout random testing I've noticed that the foliage on the ground and the ground texture itself can really play some tricks on the encoding process if there's a lot of motion in your video and you can end up with weird blending (which you can kinda see in those videos above).

I would say that if there was a perfect side-by-side comparison of those videos right next to each other, that it would be easier to pick out any minor imperfections between them; but otherwise, they're very much alike and they've had tons of "quality" stripped from them through multiple encodes.

Should i get a separate ssd for the video capture/editing/rendering or will one with my game / os / video capturing and whatnot be ok?

I would never recommend to anyone to use an SSD for solely capturing game footage. Usually, the only time I've done this is so that I could eliminate the HDD bottleneck while troubleshooting certain aspects of the capturing process. Reason being is because the NAND cells in SSDs have a certain amount of life in them, and by recording video to them you're just shortening their life at a much, much faster pace.

What I will do at times is move the captured footage to an SSD drive so that I can speed up (even if a little bit) the editing process because sometimes my projects can get quite large and I like to blame HDDs for the slow-downs I run into while working off of them.

[daviddoran]

I would think that a DVR geared hard drive would be ideal for storing video capture footage, seeing that they are meant to be recording non stop, but I could be wrong.