5.2 PTR / General Information

[Ellay]

wow it gives pvp power too, that's hilarious. Before a monk can stun you, you'll have already howling blast from range and popped unholy blight. The diseases will be on everyone in melee range and frost fever on the casters.

[Shodokan]

From a solo PoV:
Played some PTR games on dk with a disc and a frost mage (before these announced buffs). Both as unholy and frost, and man they are in a sick state. The buff to diseases is crazy. Affliction/unholy is gonna do so much pressure. Triple DPS like rogue + double frost dk with the aoe stealth is gonna rape shit in an opener with these buffs. The damage in rbg's from a frost dk due to disease buff ... hahaha I can only imagine the rape that a multiboxer dk is gonna cause.

That ring from monks is gonna be a hard counter though with the aoe disarm.

DK burst isn't changing... the extended pressure will be good but the big change for ALL dks is the 30 second stun/silence talent OR the 1 min silence off of the GCD.

The disease buff is very nice but it is not a burst buff as disease damage on a single target isn't high enough to constitute buffing "burst" but rather sustain damage.

I agree though that unholy dk/dot class/healer is going to be pretty strong...

Dks got no changes to their survivability though other than a slight nerf (buff) on conversion's RP usage.


Monk disarm isn't the problem... the only class that is immune to FoF is dks with their icebound fort. So disarm into AOE stun which you can't trinket and doesn't DR till the channel is over is the main culprit.

Also as long as you are inside the ring you are disarmed... it isn't effected by reduction from what i've been told, could be wrong though.

@fattire: Monks AOE stun TALENT isn't the problem...

Fists of fury (untrinketable like old throwdown, read above), paralysis (15 second CD OG repent), disarm, ring of peace (anti-rogue/melee burst during EVERY burst phase) along with their absurd sustained damage and AMAZING burst with mastery stacking and TEB is why they are so scary... not to mention having a gap closer on both a 12 and 24 second cooldown. Can't forget them having baseline gag order on their interrupt.

Just watch at hunter/monk and monk/rogue obliterating pretty much everything especially with a priest healer (psyfiend inside bomb + aoe fear if they come in, and can shackle a DK if he lich's to try and come in to peel)

[heyaz]

wow it gives pvp power too, that's hilarious. Before a monk can stun you, you'll have already howling blast from range and popped unholy blight. The diseases will be on everyone in melee range and frost fever on the casters.

I still don't know if I'd take that over runeforging. Disarm reduction was already there and wasn't a good choice. The PVP power and resil are negligible when you are already getting >5k pvp power from the weapon alone.

[Shodokan]

DK damage nerfed as it was overtuned.

[Multibocks]

Still buffing it some, just not as much.

[pinotnoir]

When does this patch come out?

[Owltoid]

Next Tuesday.

[Fat Tire]

DK damage nerfed as it was overtuned.

They cleverly put the attack speed buffs back in. The way they are listed now doesnt make them look huge like before, but if you notice they are the same just done over two updates.

[Baltyre]

disarm will only be 4 sec in pvp with the enchant - a dk can choose this enchant over rotfc, I know every other melee will have it. I dont think its a big deal and the monk gives up his aoe stun for it.

Enchant Weapon - Glorious Tyranny

Permanently enchants a melee weapon to increase your PvP Power by 400, your Resilience by 200, and reduces the duration of Disarm effects by 50%. Disarm duration reduction does not stack with other similar effects.

I don't think the disarm duration will be affected by anything. I think it will just disarm as long as you stay on the ring.
Someone want to check that on ptr ?

[pinotnoir]

Someone in guild was telling me this new patch allows everyone in the group to get credit for pickup quest instead of doing it x5. Can anyone confirm this is true? I did not see it in the patch notes I skimmed over.