is five boxing pointless atm?

[ebony]

hey so am not having fun atm am stuck in av-ioc not capping many conquest (unless its there time) for the fat loot. and doing lots and lot off dayey quests but i just worked out what am i going to do with all my VP points. as am more into pvp. leveled up 17 level 90's changed from horde to ally to horde to ally. whatever to try and find fun.


most off the bg's are ten men all being in the same place can work and can not work sometimes. (blizzard likes ten man) so i feel more will come. 5v5 arena is a full joke atm.

i feel three boxing the game will open more. (was thinking four but seems pointless)

here some the reasons why.

1) less money to spend on wow.
2) taking five into LFR seems to get a lot off QQ. (not as bad now the loot is random.) taking in three hunters two times not one comment!
3) ten man bg's i win 50% more games with three then five. (from testing might just be luck)
4) guild am in a friends guild now they seem to think its fun with me and i always seem to take 2 chars or 3 chars in the other stuff they do.
5) less lag on my pc.
6) scenarios (thanks to my pony friend)

anyone think of anything else why three boxing in wow will be better then five boxing or any reasons why i you think losing 2 chars will make it worse.

think three casters will work better then five.

[EaTCarbS]

You forgot scenarios. I have honestly been tossing this idea around in my head as well.

[Chivalrous]

I feel like 5 boxing is worth it but I only pve. My comp is mixed and the names are unique and in LFR nobody has ever said anything. I don't think anyone notices. Doing my dailies and such I get noticed, however. The gold from dungeons is good. Extra money from running old raids, plus they're easier (on most bosses.)

but that's just me, I think this is a question you have to decide the answer for yourself on.

[ebony]

You forgot scenarios. I have honestly been tossing this idea around in my head as well.

oh ya i how could i forget them.......

but i been playing hunters most of the day x3 and having a lot of fun. bg's just seem more better with 3 then 5

[heyaz]

4-5 box melee works pretty well in 10-15 man BGs for a lot of us but it depends on your comp, gear, competency level, and the group you get. I never got casters/ranged to work reliably in small battlegrounds, certainly not this expansion (elemental shaman), and even back in Wrath when they were very strong, it was hit or miss. Wasn't until I did an all melee group that there was a chance.

But given your goals I think you can easily accomplish them 3 boxing, save the money and get better performance on your machine. You can do scenarios for your VP, do LFR and BGs under the radar, and have less to deal with.

And no, 4, 5, and even 10 boxing is not pointless. Depends on what you're trying to accomplish.

[Fat Tire]

hey so am not having fun atm am stuck in av-ioc not capping many conquest (unless its there time) for the fat loot. and doing lots and lot off dayey quests but i just worked out what am i going to do with all my VP points. as am more into pvp. leveled up 17 level 90's changed from horde to ally to horde to ally. whatever to try and find fun.


most off the bg's are ten men all being in the same place can work and can not work sometimes. (blizzard likes ten man) so i feel more will come. 5v5 arena is a full joke atm.

i feel three boxing the game will open more. (was thinking four but seems pointless)

here some the reasons why.

1) less money to spend on wow.
2) taking five into LFR seems to get a lot off QQ. (not as bad now the loot is random.) taking in three hunters two times not one comment!
3) ten man bg's i win 50% more games with three then five. (from testing might just be luck)
4) guild am in a friends guild now they seem to think its fun with me and i always seem to take 2 chars or 3 chars in the other stuff they do.
5) less lag on my pc.
6) scenarios (thanks to my pony friend)

anyone think of anything else why three boxing in wow will be better then five boxing or any reasons why i you think losing 2 chars will make it worse.

think three casters will work better then five.

Yes.

Been saying this for 2 years(?) now.

Everything you said in the op is true.

5v5 is dead - need top 10 just for challenger since there are so few teams. Heroics - dead they are not needed at all gear progression wise since scenarios/lfr. Random bgs are all objective based games. When you get killed, you rez or kill player and they rez ad nauseum.

There will be people who say 5 is more powerful than 3(+2) in random bgs, but I disagree. If just killing in randoms while just mashing your aoe abilities was the only metric then I could see the value, but then you see why mass boxing in av/ioc is popular.

Only argument I could see is the one about not having to deal with people in heroics/10mans which is fair point.

[Owltoid]

Five boxing is more viable today than it was pre expansion if for no other reason than challenge modes. I've argued a few times the taking five into a BG is too much (excluding the 40 mans where it doesn't matter). However, 4 seems to be a good balance and I use the fifth to queue dodge. Through queue dodging I can very regularly get AV or IOC which helps me cap conquest for the week (still takes a while but very doable). Once you have gear 4 can truly contribute to all BGs, even 10 mans. At the moment I feel that if we lose a BG it's not necessarily my fault - once I get PvP weapons I know it won't be my fault.

If PvE is your thing than 5 boxing is better than 3 or 4. If PvP is your thing like me, then I still like having the fifth account, though I only BG with four. 3 boxing loses a lot of advantages that come with multiboxing while still suffering from the same disadvantages. With that said, 3 boxing with best gear in PvP will probably still wreak havoc.

[Fat Tire]

Five boxing is more viable today than it was pre expansion if for no other reason than challenge modes.

3 boxing loses a lot of advantages that come with multiboxing while still suffering from the same disadvantages.

I couldn't disagree more. I would be curious on what advantages I lose with only boxing 3 compared to 4 or 5. Given that the other +1 or +2 are not bots.

Top challenge mode rewards are only cosmetic in nature.

[ebony]

Five boxing is more viable today than it was pre expansion if for no other reason than challenge modes. I've argued a few times the taking five into a BG is too much (excluding the 40 mans where it doesn't matter). However, 4 seems to be a good balance and I use the fifth to queue dodge. Through queue dodging I can very regularly get AV or IOC which helps me cap conquest for the week (still takes a while but very doable). Once you have gear 4 can truly contribute to all BGs, even 10 mans. At the moment I feel that if we lose a BG it's not necessarily my fault - once I get PvP weapons I know it won't be my fault.

If PvE is your thing than 5 boxing is better than 3 or 4. If PvP is your thing like me, then I still like having the fifth account, though I only BG with four. 3 boxing loses a lot of advantages that come with multiboxing while still suffering from the same disadvantages. With that said, 3 boxing with best gear in PvP will probably still wreak havoc.

i can not see doing challenge modes i can not really see doing HC's to be fair. the blue gear u get from hc you can get with day quests/3 man dungons.

to do a challenge mode you going to need a mixed or a good group anyway and to be fair my friends list is kinda strong (would i like to do them? hell ya! but i can not do hc's to well) and it would not be hard to find a healer/tank for it. i was thinking about a 4/5th but from my playing today am doing very strong in every game i play even not winning theres not many games i fail on.

as for 4 boxing i don't see the point i feel ill lose out on to much with that extra one.

saying that the only games am failing on is ofc when the other side is a pemade and even then my deathkights in cata used to fail. if there in good gear. and working as a group better. i win or i lose bad with 3.

and to be fair i got 2 places i can bring friends with me. But been in all kinda bg's today and to be fair not much QQ from the other side. won 8/2 games saying with five i was losing 8/2 (anything form av-wsg) i can still about burst down a target.

i work so i don't have a killer lot off time to raid/dungeons (a 2nd mixed group) and still doing them all and pvp its just to much and this cloud be why am stating to hate wow. i do miss av games where five chars would be stronger then only 3 but theres only two bg's in the hole game like this. saying that i just find all my five chars get locked down anyway. (but now we can not que at the same time to play with ten or other pemades to nuke players has ended)


thanks for the stuff i did miss on though.

[Fat Tire]

thanks for the stuff i did miss on though.

Saving that 30 bucks a month from not needing two extra accounts means that your really only paying for one account now.

Also, now that you see that boxing 3 characters works just as well in randoms, you can even do 2v2 and 3v3 to your hearts content or grab a healer for 2+1 for conquest points. Same as 4+1 but constant games and can be easier, imo (I have alot of practice) ymmv.