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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMilitia View Post
    The program you use is rather irrelevant. What they've done is escalated the /report function inside BGs.

    How priority that is now is mystery to me but they either upped it significantly or made it so X number of reports in Y time means you are suspended.

    I've been 5 boxing my B&P team for a week now and have not done a single BG. Just questing and 5 man dungeons. No suspensions at all. And I know for a fact some of the goofballs who tried to gank me open world did actually /report me before trying to.

    People will /report you quick as shit when they see you are multiboxing because they despise us as much as botters. You should see some of the conversations I have with the retards on Cho'Lawl. They reported us back then too but now it's become a real problem with the functionality change.
    good post, thanks - it makes tons of sense. well after the patch- I play probably for 2-3 hours a day. and never got locked out of my accounts. and did crap load of open pvp world. and got reported dozens of times for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Percocet10n1 View Post
    @MadMilitia - And that is the problem. Why should you, as a multi-boxer, who does all the same things as a single player have to change the way you play the game? I mean, you quest, do dungeons and even bg/arena just like a single player. But because you use multiple accounts (that you pay for) you have to now stay away from one or several aspects of the game. Some how even though you pay just like a single player, you can't enjoy the game in the same way.

    You are forced not to play certain aspects of the game just because blizzard came up with a knee jerk reaction to bots. Blizz is very hypocritical in this aspect, saying that multi boxing is ok with them and they allow it, when in reality, as of late they really don't. The bans/suspensions work in a snow ball effect as the more you get the worse the next penalty will be. And if you have lots of time to let the bans run out, the second you come up on the radar you will be banned/suspended again. They will take your money, but god forbid you get reported or you have toons on follow (what ever is causing these problems).

    I also understand that I am in the minority. Not all multi boxers have had the same experience as me. I have been told that there are other MB's running AV and not having any problems. I am clueless why I received 8 bans/suspensions in 3 days. Hence why I am very upset with blizz at the moment.
    It might just be your battle group and / or server. Some servers are top heavy with jealous retards. Others not so much. Mind, I don't condone it. The whole boxxing looking like botting thing only came about because botters all use similar scripts so they all move together. But that isn't the reason we are getting banned. The BG community at large hates multiboxers as much as botters so they don't give a fig one way or another. They just abuse the tool that Blizzard gave them.

    So Blizzard needs to take away that tool. Problem solved for us that wasn't really affecting the subtle botters anyways.

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    But normal battlegrounds are region specific.

    Every US server is in the same pool.
    As is every EU server.

    So if for example, Cenarius US (my original server) detests/reports boxers but Magtheridon US (my current server) tolerates/likes boxers... there's an equal chance of having players from either server in a non-rated battleground.

    As far as I know, the only time battleground matters is for Arena and/or Rated Battlegrounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sethlan View Post
    good post, thanks - it makes tons of sense. well after the patch- I play probably for 2-3 hours a day. and never got locked out of my accounts. and did crap load of open pvp world. and got reported dozens of times for sure.

    I'm sure you did. You can always tell when they stop and do the gawking thing. They are just making sure to /report you to grief you even more when they try and gank you. Not realizing that open world /report is about as effective as sweeping sand into the ocean.

    I've noticed when doing quests I see some people who just stop and do nothing like they've gone afk to take a dump. Those are the /report clowns thinking it works the same way open world that it does currently in BGs. Every once in a while someone rides by and asks for an invite to group or says something like wow dude how do you do that? Or awesome!

    Sometimes I wish WoW had some anti-social mechanism like EQ had. Don't like what I'm doing? Tough shit! Here, have a train of mobs to chew on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percocet10n1 View Post
    Why should you, as a multi-boxer, who does all the same things as a single player have to change the way you play the game?
    As a matter of fact you don't do the same things a single player does. A single players presses 1 button and fires off 1 spell. A multiboxers presses 1 button and fires off 5 spells by using 3rd party software. That is quite a difference

    Quote Originally Posted by Percocet10n1 View Post
    Blizz is very hypocritical in this aspect, saying that multi boxing is ok with them and they allow it, when in reality, as of late they really don't.
    They have said that they have no objections towards multiboxing, that they tolerate it, but that they don't support it. Which basically comes down to:

    - the concept of playing multiple chars at once is fine with them, but it's at your own risk
    - if something changes in the game, and it would make multiboxing impossible, then its your own problem

    And that is what happened. They implement certain bot detection systems and it hits multiboxers. So according to their stance it means that it's your problem. Yet they investigate and have unbanned pretty much everyone.
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    Could try switching leads every 30 seconds or so?
    Then a toon would be on follow, for a maximum of 2 minutes (if five boxing) or under five minutes (if ten boxing).

    Not really sure if this would help any, but it doesn't hurt to experiment.
    I'd assume an actual bot is going to be stuck on perpetual follow.
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    At the moment, it is pretty inconvenient.
    But the suspensions are temporary.
    And as far as I know, boxers have not been banned because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenga View Post
    And that is what happened. They implement certain bot detection systems and it hits multiboxers. So according to their stance it means that it's your problem. Yet they investigate and have unbanned pretty much everyone.
    Not to split hairs here but the mechanism they implemented was giving annoying random BG tools the ability to /report you into suspension. They have no way other than turning warden back on to differentiate between a bot and a player. They've effectively left it up to the animal farm to decide who is cheating and who isn't.

    I'm just happy that it only works in BGs and not in open world. We'd really be screwed then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMilitia View Post
    I'm sure you did. You can always tell when they stop and do the gawking thing. They are just making sure to /report you to grief you even more when they try and gank you. Not realizing that open world /report is about as effective as sweeping sand into the ocean.
    Ya, I know I got many whispers, Reported, enjoy your ban, go kill youurself ETC, I'm not even responding- Even by reporting them on all ten guys it wont change a thing. people are just butt hurt.
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    it can happen automatically, no one needs to report you

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