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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
    You said you're using an FTL system.
    FTL is for your assist; without focus/target/leader set, your team will know where a command has originated based on the modifier that is sent with the command.

    You're attempting a simple set of macros, which will not require assist to execute.

    Macro 1, Keybind: NumPad 1
    (Everyone) /cast [target=ToonA] Heal Spell

    Macro 2, Keybind: NumPad 2
    (Everyone) /cast [target=ToonB] Heal Spell

    Etc.
    Hi - thats actually not at all what I am trying to do.
    Please read the original post.

    Quick recap: I want to cast on a dynamic target, from any dynamic target, based on its position in the group list viewed from any dynamic character.
    It must be based on the group list order - NOT on the character name.
    The group list and its order looks different for each person/toon in the group.
    Obviously I wouldnt make a post for something as silly as already knowing the character name....
    FTL and all these systems are about being dynamic - not hard coded.
    I want to make something similar by being able to hotkey target group members by the # of their party list.
    Basically - being able to look at the party list like a numbered checklist.
    Remember - the group list is different from each character.


    The problem with a Leader based assist.
    Or in this case, a leader based heal, is that it is going to break down in battlegrounds (or LFR raids, unless the leader is willing to move all five of your toons into the same group).
    that is exactly why i am making one that is dynamic -- not breaking for raids, groups, of any composition.
    I dont use leader-based already, I am using FTL.

    In battlegrounds, only the BG leader (or those given assist) can rearrange groups, and even then they can only move players from their own server.
    Your characters will often be in 2-3 different groups, when boxing five toons; party1 (the leader of the party) will not always be one of your characters, and in many cases none of your toons will be the party1 character.

    A party based assist (or in your case party based heals) is only going to be consistently useful in 5-man content.
    Going with a toon specific target method, 1=ToonA / 2=ToonB / 3=ToonC / 4=ToonD / 5=ToonE, that will always work however the groups are made.
    Similarly, with your FTL having everyone assist the leader and heal whoever the leader is targeting... that will also always work.



    In general, for heals you can use one of these three systems:
    a) Character specific heals, with a given keybind that triggers a macro to heal a specific character... at least one bind per character, but depending on the number of heals you're planning on using it could be three binds per character, meaning 15 macros each with its own hotkey.
    b) Assist the mob... by casting at its target or its target's target... /cast [@targettarget,help][@targettargettarget,help] Heal Spell.
    c) Using an alphabetical overlay of your team/raid... so the top, bottom or 3rd frame down (on any toon) refers to the same target... combined with a Repeater Region to broadcast mouse clicks to the desired healing targets.
    and I already know of those and dont want to use any of them...

    I want to look at my group list, in whichever order and with whatever characters it has in it - and have all my toons in that group able to heal members based on what # they are in the group - from top to bottom, player+party1-party4

    obviously - thats easy for the character casting it. its the same as hitting F1-F5. its how to inform the slaves which one that needs to be targetted where the tricky part is.

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    If you want to go by order within the group, that is a leader based system.
    Party1, Party2, Party3 and Party4 are the exact syntax used in a Leader based assist.

    This is only going to work when you're controlling everyone in the party.
    Meaning, it is broken and not working in LFR and Battlegrounds and anytime you have a friend play with some of your toons.

    You might be able to design a system like this, but the question becomes why?
    Why do you want to design a heal based system, that will break anytime the group is not composed entirely of your characters.



    An addon like Grid (with Grid Custom Layouts) or Healbot or Vuhdo (both are stand alone addons) gets you a fixed order sort.
    As in the top frame is the same character on every toon, as is the second frame... all the way down to the last frame.



    Here is how the party leader assist system works...
    If you want to do a party order based system, maybe you can adapt this.

    Everyone has base spells on Action Bar 2.
    Everyone has /cast [@Party1target] Whatever... on the same keybind but on the second action bar.

    So if you are the leader, #1 is Lightning Bolt.
    Everyone else is on Bar 2, where it is /cast [@Party1Target] Lightning Bolt

    Then you have a toggle for each lead switch.
    When you push Hotkey 1, that switches Toon A to Action bar 1, and everyone else to Action bar 2.
    Meaning one macro per the number of toons, on each toon on your team (with five toons on the team, everyone has five macros).

    The format for changing the action bars is /changeactionbar 1 or /changeactionbar 2.

    This accomplishes... the Party Leader does not use Party1 (because that is their F2 target, not themselves).
    While everyone else uses Party1 which is the current leader...
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    Updated with functional Numpad1-5 party#-based healing system.

    Not the cleanest, but it works.

    The biggest drawback I've had so far is that using RDF randomizes the group order.
    This can be fixed by sequentially removing people from group and adding them back in via correct order.

    Note that this works only when the group is invited in the same order.
    So you should create group from WoW1 which will make the group look like this, from WoW1:
    Player=WoW1
    Party1=WoW2
    Party2=WoW3
    Party3=WoW4
    Party5=WoW5

    After that - it doesnt matter which window you are controlling. FTL, whatever - hitting numpad1-5 will heal in perfect order:
    Numpad1: Player (self)
    Numpad2: Party1
    Numpad3: Party2
    etc...

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