BG Queue Assist AddOns

[F9thRet]

And this ladies and gentlemen, is reason # 42 of why I love our community. I know exactly where Heyaz is coming from, from Moderating not just gaming forums, but Political forums, and everything in between.

But yeah, IT is a bummer, I was planning on throwing some Shamans together, and finish leveling them to 90 via BG's. Oh well, it happens.

Hey. Relax.

Forums get flooded with garbage, threads quickly derailed and turned into flame wars, and a flurry of duplicate posts about the same issues. From a forum moderator's perspective, I can understand what may have happened to a lot of the threads. I would really try not to blow a gasket over what happens or doesn't happen in forum threads on battle.net, or anywhere for that matter.

Let's chill out a bit and wait for an official response? They already acknowledged they are aware of it. "Mobilizing" a bunch of internet retards and threatening to cancel your accounts and this and that isn't going to speed up their processes inside Blizzard.

They've removed/blocked API functions many times to stop exploits or other creative use of game mechanics by abusing the API, often times breaking legitimate addons they that they did not have a problem with. I'm hoping oQueue and other premade BG type addons were not a target... they really shouldn't be. I still remember when they broke Decursive in vanilla... on purpose, and it sucked by I understood why. I hope that wasn't the intention this time - to break addons.

Although I like oQ, have loved premades since Vanilla and used Premade AV Enabler and even led raids manually, ultimately we can survive without it. I really doubt many of you are going to cancel your accounts; it's hard to believe your entire reason for playing wow - leveling up, gearing, multiboxing, was to do AV rath strats using OQ endlessly... as fun as it is, there's plenty more to do...

[Ualaa]

You can still queue as a group or solo.

At the moment, you cannot queue as a raid.
Whether that is Oqueue (Group leader queue their groups) or Preform AV Enabler (Everyone queues as an individual), via a single button press by the raid leader.

You can still have a single boxer use their 5-man group as the group leaders of your raid (a raid that hasn't actually been converted to a raid).
Each leading (via Real ID) a group of their own.
Then use Repeater, to have each queue as a group, which would be pretty much clicking the button at once.
Then if the queues pop almost at once, take them... and if not, drop the queue and try again.

[zenga]

Ghostcrawler responded yesterday in a sarcastic way to this on his twitter.

I understand that people are upset about this, but be aware that there was a reason why they made it so that premade raids can't queue up together. What those addons did was circumvent that intent. Which got fixed now.

You can still queue up with 4 friends for a random BG.
If you want organized BG's, you should do rated bg's or war games.

Never understood why it was so hard to see that concept.

[Fat Tire]

I am happy with this change and I wish they got rid of any and all ways to circumvent the queuing system.

However, if blizzard really puts there foot down on stopping the botting issue it will hurt almost all boxers. The scripts that bots run nowadays are more advanced and they utilize click-to-move, now that would be something to get upset about.

[valkry]

Hey. Relax.

Forums get flooded with garbage, threads quickly derailed and turned into flame wars, and a flurry of duplicate posts about the same issues. From a forum moderator's perspective, I can understand what may have happened to a lot of the threads. I would really try not to blow a gasket over what happens or doesn't happen in forum threads on battle.net, or anywhere for that matter.

Let's chill out a bit and wait for an official response? They already acknowledged they are aware of it. "Mobilizing" a bunch of internet retards and threatening to cancel your accounts and this and that isn't going to speed up their processes inside Blizzard.

They've removed/blocked API functions many times to stop exploits or other creative use of game mechanics by abusing the API, often times breaking legitimate addons they that they did not have a problem with. I'm hoping oQueue and other premade BG type addons were not a target... they really shouldn't be. I still remember when they broke Decursive in vanilla... on purpose, and it sucked by I understood why. I hope that wasn't the intention this time - to break addons.

Although I like oQ, have loved premades since Vanilla and used Premade AV Enabler and even led raids manually, ultimately we can survive without it. I really doubt many of you are going to cancel your accounts; it's hard to believe your entire reason for playing wow - leveling up, gearing, multiboxing, was to do AV rath strats using OQ endlessly... as fun as it is, there's plenty more to do...

I'm not too worried, seems they are aware of it and didn't intend for it to happen so fingers crossed they fix it back. As for decursive, I never used it, and I used to heal up to naxx back at lvl 60. Xperl, ktm and dmg meters were the only addons I used, then later pirate speak

Edit:
/click StaticPopup1Button1
/Click ExtraActionButton1
/click LFDRoleCheckPopupAcceptButton
/click LFGDungeonReadyDialogEnterDungeonButton

will still get your whole group to join a BG

[Ualaa]

I am happy with this change and I wish they got rid of any and all ways to circumvent the queuing system.

However, if blizzard really puts there foot down on stopping the botting issue it will hurt almost all boxers. The scripts that bots run nowadays are more advanced and they utilize click-to-move, now that would be something to get upset about.

The whole CTM/IWT was put into the game to help people with disabilities.
Sure, Blizzard could remove those features... but that means making the game less accessible to those with special needs.

I doubt Blizzard would do that, but it's their game... they can make the changes they want to.
There are other options out there, with numerous free to play games too.

[Cptan]

You can still queue up with 4 friends for a random BG.
If you want organized BG's, you should do rated bg's or war games.

Never understood why it was so hard to see that concept.

Although I like oQ, have loved premades since Vanilla and used Premade AV Enabler and even led raids manually, ultimately we can survive without it. I really doubt many of you are going to cancel your accounts; it's hard to believe your entire reason for playing wow - leveling up, gearing, multiboxing, was to do AV rath strats using OQ endlessly... as fun as it is, there's plenty more to do...

Well said.

[Clovis]

The whole CTM/IWT was put into the game to help people with disabilities.
Sure, Blizzard could remove those features... but that means making the game less accessible to those with special needs.

By special needs, do you mean multiboxers? Because I'm pretty sure Blizz put IWT in just for us to spark the melee boxer revolution

[jstanthr]

Ghostcrawler responded yesterday in a sarcastic way to this on his twitter.

I understand that people are upset about this, but be aware that there was a reason why they made it so that premade raids can't queue up together. What those addons did was circumvent that intent. Which got fixed now.

You can still queue up with 4 friends for a random BG.
If you want organized BG's, you should do rated bg's or war games.

Never understood why it was so hard to see that concept.

and his earlier post said it was an unintended side effect, why can't they just say one way or the other ?

[daanji]

Or it sends a nice clear message of "don't spam create threads if there's already one on this topic." Considering 3 of the 4 threads you linked are still active, I'd hardly call that a great big FU.

Well, it may be considered spam by someone who is not a vested member of the oQueue community, but I'd lean towards calling it a protest or a demonstration.

Blizzard has a history of ignoring the PvP community and omitting certain feature changes in patch notes without ever acknowledging them. In the past, it has taken formal protests (IE forum spam, as that is really the only method we have to be heard) to get a response from Blizzard or even acknowledged.

Sarcastic tweets from the Lead System Designer doesn't help in this regard.

I am against spam as much as anyone, but the oQueue community is very large and each individual finds out about the change in their own time and creates their own thread.
If you observe the threads, the majority of the posts are users who rarely visit the forums from a lot of different users. It is not a handful of people spamming the thread (except for the trolls, who seem to be very active).

Now, as to my comment on Reddit, it was more of an observation on that community. They have a tendency to mobilize on topics they feel passionate about, so I anticipate at least some organize response from those users. I am not advocating they do so as non-constructive spam is pointless. However, formal and organized protests can be useful. Blizzard values our feedback and opinion. Sadly, it seems the only way to get important community topics noticed is to be loud and verbal.

Case in point, Blizzard relocated the Leave Battleground button to be right next to the Show ScoreBoard button. Unfortunately, this caused people to accidentally click on the wrong button and get the deserted buff. The battleground forums were aflame with posts from tons of users who hated this change and wanted it moved. Blizzard did not acknowledge or respond to this issue that many in the PvP community felt was important. Yet, with 5.1 they finally relocated a button. Sure, it is a small change that only affect a small amount of people, but it does show that by protesting and making your opinion heard, you can influence the game.