How nice it is

[Mannyman]

Hmm, that hellfire + stun effect sounds neat. I'm not high enough in level to try it yet

I'll try to get a screenie up in the next day or so.

[Xzin]

It is not THAT viable until you hit about 35 due to the talent requirements.

Fortunately, I should hit 35 today and respec and see if it works or not.

Without the stuns and interrupt prevention, I can kill 4 elites in SM - levels 32 or so, about 100 exp per kill. 5 sometimes. 6 or more is SOMETIMES possible but usually too much. Takes about 200 "packs" of 4 to level. Seems faster than questing if you can just get in there and crank it out. Slower if you die a lot (after you learn how to do it). You had better have shields, flash heals and aoe heals memorized! Plus, turn on if channeling to prevent recasting hellfire if it is channeling already.

Hellfire takes A LOT of mana, so most likely the talents will help out tremendously. If it works out, I will keep destro as I level up and do PvP. Should be a nice compliment for the mages (raw damage over dots). The fire/shadow invuln will be nice too.

Only thing I lose out on is Unstable Affliction and instant cast Howls. Considering I already have 2 with the priests.... and regular fears... and frost novas, and counter spells, and sheeps and seduces and deathcoils...

I think I am ok

Plus, fears spread people out. I want them to hug me

[Suribusi]

I totally agree that instance grinding is better than questing if you aren't dying a lot.

When I was leveling up my priest/mages long ago, I was able to do 10k XP in 10minutes in RFD. Lots of mob clusters that drop quick.

If I recall my level path was:
Questing in Tirisfal until 12.
Questing in Barens until 20.
Crag mine (or whatever it is called) in stonetalon on the east side until 24.
Drawing a blank until 28ish.
RFK till 33ish.
RFD (outside) until 35ish.
SM (library until I got staves then Cathedral) until 38ish
RFD (inside) until 44ish.
ZF until 49-50.
ST until 59, where I stayed for like 8months before TBC came out.

I admit staying in ST that long wasn't that efficient. But I wasn't sure where else I could go besides BRD. I tried it a couple times, but since MC was where everyone was at, I had a damned of a time even getting to the instance without alliance farming me. Plus there are warriors that really loved to shield base my priest in the middle of a heal.

Sorry, went on a tangent there. Before I stopped playing I had my priest/lock crew was in their mid 20's, and was ever-so excited to hit the age of pyrocasm, but never got that high. I can't wait to hear the results. :wink:

Xzin, if it works out good, you're going to have to post some videos of your locks chain stunning alliance while your mages blast AE. That would be hiliarious to see, and probably even more so to do!.

-S

[Suribusi]

Bradster/Xzin,

Any word on pyrocasm?

-S

[Xzin]

I tested it last night in SM. I was averaging over 10k exp per hour grinding in the GY. Not too bad for a 5 box crew, about 4 - 5 hours per level assuming no quests.

It worked markedly better over the standard hellfire setup (with no talents). I only lost a lock a few times but no wipes, even with some rather massive pulls of 12+ mobs (non elite ghosts).

[Mannyman]

I tried out some aoe last night with my group. Concentration aura, Pally grabs aggro, consecrates, mages aoe, warlock rain of fire. Pretty damn nice. Some more levels and even the priest can jump in with holy nova.

Am looking into making a video instead of a pic soon.

[Xzin]

Holy nova really does not heal enough and EATS your mana too.

YOur group is a bit different with the pally but it should still work.... mages IAE and Warlocks Hellfire .... priest @ level 30+ Prayer of Healings.

It works - BARELY - with locks, demo specced. The mobs die a bit faster than I die - but without 4 locks 1 priest..... not sure that is a viable strategy or not.

But try it and find out!

[HPAVC]

I gotta point out that the Mag people are on a PvP server. So they might find it natural to level in a instance more so than a PvE server. A 5man group is going to find areas like [name of southeast side hinterlands escapes me] insane xp if they tackle it at a level where its tests them.

I started out on laughing skull and I still have nightmares of being pressed into glue after level 20 and not being able to play the game basically. The sight of a pack of 5 low level cloth characters grinding would be insta-camp I would assume to anyone.

I would love to hear how the army of X?in deals with this.

While I have no problems jumping from instance to instance, I am sure its somewhat server dependent on how ruthless things are. A level 25 character switches to his 70 alt to boil the X?ins might be something thats common in my experience.

[Xzin]

It is a non issue. Really. Yeah, I die here and there but one can always leave and go to an instance or if things get hectic, I just bring the mages and 10 box. I have never had a problem being camped or harassed while leveling. If I had wanted to be left alone, I would not have rolled on a PvP server.

[Xzin]

Tested this out and had some codec issues but managed to get something together to help illustrate this:

http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums2/v...hp?p=4895#4895