How goes it in Eve land?

[Redbeard]

Are orcas susceptible to ganks? I know pretty much anything can be ganked if you have enough fire power, i just mean in general like a hulk etc.

I just purchased 4 covetors and 1 iteron mk 5 to get my op started again. A lot of T1 stuff for now as I get back into the swing of things. I also decided that I want to train all my dudes to be perfect miners.. my main is already there, and my first alt (that i had before 5 boxing) is close...

Will spend my time mining figuring out what I want to do for my mission setup. Not sure if I will stick wtih the caldari missile stuff or go a different route.

[Morganti]

Tornado volley is so high that anything can be ganked if someone is willing to take the loss to do so. That being said, no one is gonna gank an Orca full of ore (not worth it) and if you have expensive stuff you are moving you can put it in the unscannable corp hangar which is going to be changed to a scannable hangar come Dec. 4th.

[Redbeard]

Ive been reading about BS mining lol

Apparently you can do some decent numbers with a Rokh using deep core miners which still use crystals and get you a 180s cycle.

Havent looked at numbers / etc since them changing the barges around.

[Morganti]

I BS mined back in the day, but I'd have to see real numbers to believe that BS's are nearly as good as barges are now (ANY of the barges)

[Redbeard]

Am up to an orca, a hulk and 3 covetors at this point woot.

Almost have enough money for the 2nd hulk.

Crap is expensive =D

[grap]

The Two Week Hero: Tornado Edition

With Crucible came the introduction of the fantastic Tier 3 Battlecruisers: the Naga, Oracle, Talos and Tornado.
While all of them pack a fearsome punch in the form of Battleship Sized Guns, only one is the preferred hull of the BC-Ganker.
That, of course, is the Minmatar’s Tornado. Fit with devastating battleship sized artillery, it can deliver (depending on skills of course) alpha strikes of 10,000 damage or more.
As with the Thrasher hero, the Tornado hero will require a set of +3s (minus the Charisma implant), a spare character slot, two weeks of training time, and some help from your friends (if you want it).

The Plan
***REMAP TO THE FOLLOWING: I-17 P-27 C-17 W-21 M-17***
Cybernetics I
*** PLUG IN +3 IMPLANTS ***
Electronic Warfare I
Propulsion Jamming I
Energy Grid Upgrades I
Energy Grid Upgrades II
Tactical Shield Manipulation I
Shield Upgrades I
Long Range Targeting I
Mechanics III
Jury Rigging I
Spaceship Command IV
Battlecruisers I
Battlecruisers II
Battlecruisers III
Minmatar Frigate I
Minmatar Frigate II
Minmatar Frigate III
Minmatar Frigate IV
Minmatar Cruiser I
Minmatar Cruiser II
Minmatar Cruiser III
Gunnery III
Gunnery IV
Gunnery V
Small Projectile Turret I
Small Projectile Turret II
Small Projectile Turret III
Medium Projectile Turret I
Medium Projectile Turret II
Medium Projectile Turret III
Large Projectile Turret I
Large Projectile Turret II
Large Projectile Turret III
Surgical Strike I
Surgical Strike II
Surgical Strike III
Motion Prediction I
Motion Prediction II
Motion Prediction III
Motion Prediction IV
Weapon Upgrades I
Weapon Upgrades II
Weapon Upgrades III
Weapon Upgrades IV
Engineering IV
Total time: 15 days, 11 hours, 25 minutes, 48 seconds (13 days, 18 hours after implants)

The Fit
The above plan will get your fresh alt into the following fit:
[Tornado, Hulk Smashing Nado]

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Reactor Control Unit I
Reactor Control Unit I
Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Invulnerability Field I
Warp Disruptor I
Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I
Sensor Booster I
1400mm Gallium I Cannon, Arch Angel Phased Plasma L
1400mm Gallium I Cannon, Arch Angel Phased Plasma L
1400mm Gallium I Cannon, Arch Angel Phased Plasma L
1400mm Gallium I Cannon, Arch Angel Phased Plasma L
1400mm Gallium I Cannon, Arch Angel Phased Plasma L
1400mm Gallium I Cannon, Arch Angel Phased Plasma L
1400mm Gallium I Cannon, Arch Angel Phased Plasma L
1400mm Gallium I Cannon, Arch Angel Phased Plasma L

i copy this from Ten TV hulkageddon guide.
the guide was before the new update of barge minning

[grap]

The Disco-phoon or smartbombing battleship

One of the most annoying things a miner can do is team up with an Orca fit with Remote Shield Transporters.
More than one gank has gone wrong because the gankers didn’t count on that Orca being able to repair at least some of the damage being put out on the target Exhumer.
However, there is always an upside! Often, Orcas will attract other little guppies, all clustered around the Mommy Miner for protection.
Should you encounter 3 or more Exhumers (mainly Mackinaws, for their weaker tanks), do not despair!
Instead, go buy yourself a Typhoon (or other appropriate battleship) and have some fun with them!

The Fit:
[Typhoon, You Thought You Were Safe]

Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Medium Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Medium Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Medium Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Medium Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Damage Control I
Adaptive Nano Plating I
Adaptive Nano Plating I
Adaptive Nano Plating I
Adaptive Nano Plating I
Layered Plating I
Layered Plating I
[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]

The Tactic:
Get a solid warp-in to the Orca in question, land right next to Mommy Miner, and activate all your bombs at once.
Do not use your Cap Boosters right away - you don’t need them yet.
By the time your second volley of smartbombs has detonated, not only will the miners around you be feeling the pain - you will too.
CONCORD and the Faction Navy will be on you like white on rice, busy doing all sorts of nasty things (hence the tank mods in the lows).
In order to get off the third (and possibly fourth!) rounds of smartbombs, you will need to use your Cap Boosters.
One of the many dastardly things that CONCORD does to you upon spawning is to neut the ever-living bejesus out of you.
You will be at zero cap. Once that happens, shortly before the third cycle of your smartbombs, smash two of your Cap Booster modules. This will give you the juice to fire off your full rack of smartbombs.

The reason a Typhoon is the ideal ship is that they can fit two sets of two cap boosters, meaning that if your tank can hold on through the onslaught of the police, you will be able to fire off a fourth round of smartbombs.
Typically, a Mackinaw will be destroyed on the third round of smartbombing.
However, if you want to make sure no one escapes your devastation (or you want to catch pods napping), the fourth is essential.


Ganking For Outlaws

As alluded to previously, one of the most important aspects of suicide ganking is gathering intel on your target. Often disregarded (leading to many tragically wasted destroyers), performing a quick ship scan can mean the difference between ISK for all, and a laugh from the terrible person mining merrily away in the belt, surrounded by your wrecks.
As a baseline, the following chart uses a 0.5 system (with slow CONCORD response times) as an example:

Target Ship Thrashers Catalysts Tornados
Retriever.......1...........1......... OVERKILL
Mackinaw......2-3........1-2...........1
Hulk.............4-5.........3-4...........1-2

i copy this from Ten TV hulkageddon guide.
the guide was before the new update of barge minning

[Redbeard]

LOL there is a guide for everything in Eve =D Bastards.

Got my second hulk, 2 to go.

Bandwith wise I really feel like I could be playing more accounts, I am kind of tempted to sub up a few more. Eve makes it especially easy since there are no expacs to buy.

Hrm.

[Redbeard]

Just turned on a 6th account.

I have 2 characters that are older than my other 3... the first is my main and he has like 73m SP. The second is my first alt before i was way into boxing.. he was like 35m. Plan is to split into 2 groups of 3 when I get to missions. Hopefully I can manage that.
And one more for the mining op is just gravy.
Now i have to train another newb OY. =D

[Morganti]

I've been running anomalies in nullsec. Not sure if they are "better" isk-wise than level 4's when I run strictly "tag" missions, but you can definitely get into a better groove on them.