I may have gotten the WoW itch, tell me what's happened in the past 2 years.

[djensen2010]

Remorseless winter is useless against: Mages, Spriests, Warlocks, Druids, Anything with a paladin on the team, shaman who spec into freedom totem, death knights, warriors, hunters, monks... The only time it is useful at all it seems is when their "hey i can gtfo" buttons are on cooldown. Multiple grips helps but it normally isn't enough to secure a kill even with asphixiating multiple targets (healers) into a stun on one of them (from hpaladin) into blind.... there just isn't enough CC for the comp in comparison to something like godcomp (mage/spriest/warrior/druid/shaman) which has ring, AOE fear, stun x 4, silence, cyclone, hex, disarm x 2 or another similar comp ive seen run (hpal/druid/mage/demo lock/warrior) or even the most notable quad dps comp (Mage/Warrior x 2/BM/Hpal).

Class stacking limits your crowd control and effectiveness right now. Most high end 5's games have 2-3 focusing, one dps that is mainly dedicated to control. Dks have a lot of burst (if they crit) but otherwise they have very high sustained damage but fall over insanely fast unless you can cycle your defensives (and effectively doing so on 4 toons is a pain in the ass). The changes to dispel screws so many comps out of being able to be CC'd and still get out if it effectively.

Honestly if you are dead set on coming back I wish you the best of luck my friend but IMO this is the single worst expansion to come back for if you want to PVP.

What I'm personally doing is leveling my warriors to play with friends for fun.

@heyas i've already gone over how i got ddosed, the person who owned the only real pvp guild on the server basically had people add him to our calls when we were playing 3's or 5's or w/e (so i basically couldn't play with anyone but two friends) and he did the same shit to them through people he know that knew them.

I know this is kind of pointless buttt i run 8 dk 2 helas and i have 4 dks with gorefiends grip and 4 with remorseless and i set it up on a round robin when one dks grips and targets to one dk that uses remorseless. When im in a big bg with my 15 boxer buddy (he runs 9 ele shammies) ill just spam that macro and it will death grip all ranged and melee in and with 4 of those winters going they basically get insta freezed. works excellent against the 40 boxer

[Shodokan]

I know this is kind of pointless buttt i run 8 dk 2 helas and i have 4 dks with gorefiends grip and 4 with remorseless and i set it up on a round robin when one dks grips and targets to one dk that uses remorseless. When im in a big bg with my 15 boxer buddy (he runs 9 ele shammies) ill just spam that macro and it will death grip all ranged and melee in and with 4 of those winters going they basically get insta freezed. works excellent against the 40 boxer

I don't really talk about things other than arena and small group play. But that works.